Re: Google Maps offering to "map our locations"....concerns??

[Jeff Moore <mail () JEFFMOORE COM>]

One question for those that have been through this mapping process. Is this
like the google car where they will offer a "street view" of the inside of
your buildings or is it strictly google maps and wifi mapping?

Thanks!

Jeff M

On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 10:31 AM, SCHALIP, MICHAEL <mschalip () cnm edu> wrote:

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> > > > On Tuesday, April 17, 2012 at 11:51 AM, "SCHALIP, MICHAEL" <
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> Hi Mark....et al....
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> Your point is well taken - and absolutely correct.  I just thought this
> would be something to throw out to the masses and see what everyone else
> was thinking or doing.  As it turns out - I think most folks feel the way
> you do....you can't stop them - if anything, having a "contract" with them
> is just formal notification and acknowledgement of what they're doing....or
> going to do anyway.  I'm not the decision maker in matters like
> this.....just the information gatherer.....so, this is the overview that I
> passed along.....
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> Thanks,
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> Michael
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Berman, Mark [mailto:mberman () siena edu]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2012 4:50 AM
> To: SCHALIP, MICHAEL; SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU
> Subject: Re: Google Maps offering to "map our locations"....concerns??
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> Michael,
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> I realize that for those of whose job includes security there is a
> responsibility to be a little paranoid, but this seems pretty harmless.
> Wearing another my hats of being responsible for the wireless network this
> seems very cool. They are offering to map the strength of our WiFi signal
> in the public areas of our campus. We don't intentionally provide wireless
> signal outdoors: here in the northeast there are only 2 weeks a year that
> the weather is conducive to sitting outside and working, otherwise it's too
> cold or it's raining or it's too sunny to see the screen! However a
> wireless heat map of the campus would be useful to students and useful to
> us to see if there are areas that we should pump up a bit. Most campuses
> have centrally controlled WiFi networks and I can't see any particular
> security risk to Google advertising the (after all) publicly viewable
> aspects of our networks.
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> Am I missing something?
>
> - Mark
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> From: "SCHALIP, MICHAEL" <mschalip () CNM EDU<mailto:mschalip () CNM EDU>>
> Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2012 00:16:19 -0400
> Subject: Google Maps offering to "map our locations"....concerns??
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> Hi Folks....
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> Has anyone else been approached by Google Maps to allow them to "map your
> campus" in detail - presumably, for student navigation purposes??  Here's
> the "agreement" that they want us to sign off on.  I have some basic
> concerns, but - then again - my concerns may be completely unfounded.  So -
> I thought I'd offer this up to this group to see what your collective
> wisdom would respond with....(note the italicized entry)....
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> Let me know what you all think....
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> Thanks,
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> Michael
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> We (the "Property Owner", "Property Manager", or "Property Operator")
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> enter the publicly accessible areas of the properties described above, at a
> time and in the manner directed by our designated contact person listed in
> the Signatory Information area below, to collect Location Information.
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> For the purposes of this agreement, "Location Information" means Wi-Fi
> access point MAC addresses (also known as BSSIDs); Wi-Fi access point
> properties (including signal strength); mobile handset-generated compass,
> gyroscope and accelerometer measurements; and other related information.
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> Google will abide by the property access rules specified by our designated
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> Google must have suitable insurance coverage or self-insure for all of
> Google's activities on the propert(ies).  Google will be responsible for
> all costs of its data collection, and will be the exclusive owner of all
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> trademarks or logos.  Neither party will use the other's name, trademark or
> logo in any public statement without the other's permission.
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