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Re: Deepfreeze on vm's?


From: "SCHALIP, MICHAEL" <mschalip () CNM EDU>
Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2011 07:34:26 -0700

Bad form.....scare tactics.....bad publicity stunt.....how do we get the Educause moderator involved??

From: The EDUCAUSE Security Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU] On Behalf Of Walter 
Moore
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 6:54 AM
To: SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU
Subject: Re: [SECURITY] Deepfreeze on vm's?

You had it right in your first paragraph. Whatever the merits of your patent case (and you will have to forgive my 
skepticism) you have no business interjecting it into this discussion.

On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 11:19 PM, Dennis Meharchand <dennis () valtx com<mailto:dennis () valtx com>> wrote:
This is likely one of those situations where I should just continue to shut my mouth until we are already to act but 
here goes:

My company Valt.X Technologies owns the patents in this area and we intend to enforce our patents in 2012.
Here's my advice - if you are using Deep Freeze or any VDI - include in your contract that they cover you for Patent 
Infringement.

Valt.X has just won its first public tender in Canada - we own this area and intend to enforce our intellectual 
property rights.

Our position is that Deep Freeze is a blatant copy of Valt.X issued patents and that VDI also infringes our patents - 
we intend to sue all infringers.

Dennis Meharchand
CEO, Valt.X Technologies Inc.
Cell: 416-618-4622<tel:416-618-4622>
Email: dennis () valtx com<mailto:dennis () valtx com>
Web: www.valtx.com<http://www.valtx.com>

From: The EDUCAUSE Security Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU<mailto:SECURITY () 
LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU>] On Behalf Of Brandon Payne
Sent: December 6, 2011 6:01 PM
To: SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU<mailto:SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU>
Subject: [SECURITY] Deepfreeze on vm's?

We are looking into VDI for all our computer labs. VMware View to be exact with WYSE P20 Zero Clients. Roughly about 
300 or more vm's for all the labs.

From a virtual standpoint - do you see the need for Faronics Deepfreeze on all computer lab vm's? Currently we are 
using Deepfreeze on our desktops in all labs and has worked out great. For this situation, I'm not interested in the 
security implications of why Deepfreeze is bad, just if its recommended in a virtual environment.

What are you doing in situations if a user profile gets hosed up with malware in this vm enviroment?

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Brandon Payne
Technical Support Specialist
Information Services
Sauk Valley Community College



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