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Re: DMCA
From: Valdis Kletnieks <Valdis.Kletnieks () VT EDU>
Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 10:59:06 -0500
On Tue, 29 Nov 2011 08:04:34 CST, Brian L Cox said:
We have yet to have anyone come forward with a legitimate educational use for P2P. I am sure those applications exist, but we have not encountered them so far.
And what standard of proof do they have to meet to count as "legitimate"? Almost every time I hear this sort of thing, it's already been pre-determined that it will be almost impossible for said application to make its case. In fact, I'll go a step further from what Randy said. I hereby challenge every site that currently blocks P2P because they don't see a legitimate educational use to appy *the exact same criteria* to YouTube, and block *that* if it doesn't mee the same criteria. If you don't like P2P because only 1-2% of the traffic is "educational", then you better ban YouTube for *the exact same reasons*. Oh, and wander around youtube for a while, and ask yourself what percent of the clips have a clear and obvious copyright status - so don't use *that* as a anti-P2P either. Then add in the provisions of S.978, which would make it illegal to stream covers of songs, and 95% of the remaining content on YouTube would evaporate as well - http://www.freebieber.org/ Let me know how blocking YouTube works out for you. :) Don't shoot the messenger. P2P isn't the problem. It's not even the bits that are transferred that are the problem. It's what some people think of the status of the bits that are transferred that's the problem.
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