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Re: Initial Passwords


From: "Bristol, Gary L." <gbristol () OU EDU>
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 13:44:36 -0500

What we do here is contact the sponsor or Manager and inform them that the
account has been created, what the username is and where the user needs to
go too (URL) to setup their security questions and password.

-----Original Message-----
From: The EDUCAUSE Security Constituent Group Listserv
[mailto:SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU] On Behalf Of King, Ronald A.
Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 1:41 PM
To: SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU
Subject: Re: [SECURITY] Initial Passwords

Gary, thanks for the feedback.



To all,

Our dilemma is this:



Our new users (or their manger) fills out a form requesting accesses to
different systems based on their function here.  When we get the form and
all the appropriate signatures, we create the account and password.  It
usually takes us a day or two at the most.  Our policies do not permit us to
distribute this via non-secure means such as email, and, the user is waiting
patiently to be informed, but, we are kind of in a catch 22 situation; I
can't email the info to you so you can access your email to see that I have
created your account, and waiting for the user to contact us (provided they
know who to contact) isn't part of our customer service practices.



So, how is it other institutions are handling this?



Ronald King

Security Engineer

Norfolk State University

Marie V. McDemmond Center for Applied Research

Suite 401

700 Park Ave.

Norfolk, Virginia  23504

Phone:  757-823-3918

Email: raking () nsu edu

http://security.nsu.edu



From: The EDUCAUSE Security Constituent Group Listserv
[mailto:SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU] On Behalf Of Gary Dobbins
Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 1:46 PM
To: SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU
Subject: Re: [SECURITY] Initial Passwords



Or, if you meant how do you deliver the account to the individual, that's a
matter of whatever your policies are.  Since the password is useful for one
purpose only (to allow itself to be reset) you can deliver the ID and
password to the individual on a piece of paper, depending on your process.
Worst case is an interloper grabs it and chooses their own password in
advance of the intended accountholder, in which case the latter person will
be unable to do the same, and will call you, so the interception won't tend
to remain undetected.





From: The EDUCAUSE Security Constituent Group Listserv
[mailto:SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU] On Behalf Of Gary Dobbins
Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 1:43 PM
To: SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU
Subject: Re: [SECURITY] Initial Passwords



You configure the account that way upon its creation.   In our case, we use
Active Directory and Kerberos, so it's possible for the admin to set the
password's status to expired, and our password-change system recognizes that
and acts accordingly.





From: The EDUCAUSE Security Constituent Group Listserv
[mailto:SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU] On Behalf Of King, Ronald A.
Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 1:09 PM
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Subject: Re: [SECURITY] Initial Passwords



How does one find or get the pre-expired password?



Thanks for the response.



Ronald King

Security Engineer

Norfolk State University

Marie V. McDemmond Center for Applied Research

Suite 401

700 Park Ave.

Norfolk, Virginia  23504

Phone:  757-823-3918

Email: raking () nsu edu

http://security.nsu.edu



From: The EDUCAUSE Security Constituent Group Listserv
[mailto:SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU] On Behalf Of Gary Dobbins
Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 12:51 PM
To: SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU
Subject: Re: [SECURITY] Initial Passwords



A good practice is to distribute pre-expired passwords so that the person
has to immediately change it by visiting your password-change page and
select a new password.  This way, their password becomes a secret known only
to the accountholder.





From: The EDUCAUSE Security Constituent Group Listserv
[mailto:SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU] On Behalf Of King, Ronald A.
Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 12:47 PM
To: SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU
Subject: [SECURITY] Initial Passwords



I would like to inquire as to what other institutions have in place for
assigning and distributing passwords for new users in a secure manner?



Ronald King

Security Engineer

Norfolk State University

Marie V. McDemmond Center for Applied Research

Suite 401

700 Park Ave.

Norfolk, Virginia  23504

Phone:  757-823-3918

Email: raking () nsu edu

http://security.nsu.edu



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