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Re: E-mail from ARIN ref. Legacy Registration Services
From: George Russ <george.russ () CITADEL EDU>
Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 11:11:11 -0400
From counsel:
Section 3 Evaluation and Service This is one of the incredibly one-sided sections. ARIN has the sole and exclusive discretion to make requirements of us, and then to determine whether it can provide services. I would like to see some softer language here- ie that ARIN has the right to require "additional documentation, as commercially reasonable" or something similar. Also, it would be nice to have some sort of appellate, or second review, process. Section 4 Conditions of Service The change request section is equally one-sided. Again, it would be nice to have some "commercially reasonable" provisions, and/or appellate / review provisions. The prohibited conduct section is incredibly vague. I trust they are saying that if we violate any laws concerning internet security, or something along those lines, that they will cancel our contract. As written, however, they could be saying that if we violate a zoning provision here, that such a violation is sufficient to warrant cancellation. Thus, I would like to see this provision tightened up some. Section 7 Current and Future Policies This is another of the incredibly one-sided sections. ARIN has "the sole and absolute discretion (to) amend the Poilicies," which amendments become binding on us immediately upon publication on the website. At the least, they could send us an e-mail of changes in policies. I get notifications regularly from 401(k) and SEP account companies. Why can't they do the same? Section 11 Representations and Warranties (1) Richard - unless Curt or John Walker has authorized you to do so, you do not have authority to enter this contract. (2) I don't know what other contracts we have which might conflict with this one; also, I am leery of saying this doesn't violate any applicable laws. At the moment, I do not know of any laws that apply to this, but that is an incredibly broad statement, which it would be nice to change... Section 14 - Term and Termination Their rights to terminate are much broader than ours. We have to go to arbitration, whereas they don't, in many respects. Thus, I would strike all of the language in 14 (c) beginning at "IF ARIN believes any claim of breach is not correct or has been cured, it shall respond in writing... Section 15 - General Provisions I don't understand paragraph (b). Is this a change in procedure from current practice? What other policies are there, as referenced in subparagraph (d)? Their description of force majeure is a bit broad. I would exclude "riots, failure of contractors or subcontractors to perform, labor strike, lockout, boycott, or acts of governmental authorities." I just don't see them as "acts of God." Again, I like the residual clause they have included regarding choice of law. That's clever. Thank you George -------------------------------------------------------------- George Russ ITS/Network Operations and Security -----Original Message----- From: The EDUCAUSE Security Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU] On Behalf Of David Lundy Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 1:19 PM To: SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU Subject: Re: [SECURITY] E-mail from ARIN ref. Legacy Registration Services What did legal counsel advise? Dave ------------------------------------------------ David Lundy Assistant IT Security Officer University of the Pacific Stockton, CA 95211 Email: dlundy () pacific edu Voice: 209-946-3951 Fax: 209-946-2898 -----Original Message----- From: The EDUCAUSE Security Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU] On Behalf Of George Russ Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 10:17 AM To: SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU Subject: Re: [SECURITY] E-mail from ARIN ref. Legacy Registration Services We received one and our Director sent it to counsel for legal advice first. George -------------------------------------------------------------- George Russ ITS/Network Operations and Security The Citadel Charleston SC 29409 -------------------------------------------- The information contained in this e-mail message is privileged and confidential information intended for the intended recipient only. If you are neither the intended recipient nor the employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or the taking of any action in reliance on the contents of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please reply and notify the sender and delete this message. Unauthorized interception of this e-mail is a violation of criminal law. -----Original Message----- From: The EDUCAUSE Security Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU] On Behalf Of Clyde Hoadley Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 1:22 PM To: SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU Subject: [SECURITY] E-mail from ARIN ref. Legacy Registration Services We received a rather odd e-mail from ARIN.NET this week (excerpt below). It's not clear to me what this is about. Did anyone else received one? Should we send it on to our legal Council? Ignore it? Apply for it? Does it even apply to Colleges and Universities? This is outside my domain of knowledge which, I admit, is growing smaller by the hour (grin). --- Clyde Hoadley Metropolitan State College of Denver
-------- Original Message -------- Subject: [ARIN-20080324.9783] ARIN offers a Legacy Registration
Services Agreement
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 06:11:08 -0400 From: arin-registration () arin net
...
The American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN) now offers you >a
Legacy Registration Services Agreement(RSA). This agreement >ensures your legacy resources the same services provided to >thousands of other organizations who have received Internet >number resources directly from ARIN since December 1997. The >Legacy RSA contractually ensures that ARIN policies adopted >after the contract is signed will not reduce or restrict the >Legacy RSA address holder's contractual rights. ...
http://www.arin.net/registration/legacy/
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