<SPAM> Re: OT: vendor contacts after list posting

["Crawford, Tim M." <tcrawford () GSB STANFORD EDU>]

I should have been clearer too. It is not that I am against having vendors on the list. However, there need to be 
"rules for engagement". Specifically, avoiding the cold call sales. If that can be addressed, I am ok with the 
approach. 

One other aspect would be sharing sensative information with other higher-ed folks vs vendors. Maybe that is a more 
sensative issue for some than others. 

Tim


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-----Original Message-----
From: Cal Frye <cjf () CALFRYE COM>
To: SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU <SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU>
Sent: Wed Apr 11 12:33:21 2007
Subject: Re: [SECURITY] OT:  vendor contacts after list posting

Paul Russell wrote:
> On 4/11/2007 14:32, Sarah Stevens wrote:
> > I realize that you may not appreciate the cold calling from vendors 
> > regarding their products and services.  I can understand that this can
> > become overwhelming.  However, there is another perspective to look at
> > here as well.  I own an information security company.
> ...
> > I'd like to believe that I provide a valuable service and 
> > that I can continue to participate on this listserv as a valuable asset
> > instead of "vendor scum".
>
> Sarah described one of many ways that a vendor may choose to interact with
> other members of this type of forum. I, for one, have no problem with this
> approach. I have no problem with vendors who provide meaningful replies to
> specific questions. I have a problem with vendors who use my subscription
> on a 'security' list as justification to bombard me with marketing dreck
> about every 'security' product and service they are trying to sell this
> week.
Let me clarify my position; sorry I was too brief before.
I'm with Paul in welcoming measured, useful interaction with vendor
representatives on this list. The mosquito drone I referred to was
strictly in reference to the uninvited ringing of my telephone in
response to list postings.

Both open and closed lists have their uses; I don't think the vendors
participating on this list have caused me much trouble and have, indeed,
contributed to the community. I'm not calling for any changes in list
management.
-- 
Regards,
-- Cal Frye, Network Administrator, Oberlin College

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