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Re: P2P File Sharing and Copiers Causing Multicast Storms; MDNS issues


From: jack suess <jack () UMBC EDU>
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 22:24:12 -0400

Andrew,

We make heavy use of vlan's at UMBC. Every building network is
designed to have multiple independent vlans.

We put all printers on a separate Vlan that can't leave campus or be
connected to from off campus (without using the vpn).

We also put all HVAC on a separate vlan and limit off-campus access
to the vendors we deal with for remote monitoring/support of HVAC.

We also have a separate vlan's for all our "campus card" networked
vending machines/cash registers/etc.

The biggest hassle in doing this is work was working with all the
departments and getting all the network printers configured with the
new ip addresses associated with the printer vlan. For the really
large school that is highly decentralized that may be an intractable
problem.

jack suess, VP of Information Technology, UMBC

On Sep 14, 2005, at 9:35 PM, Andrew Watson wrote:

We had some strange and troublesome network problems during the
first week
of classes at CC.  It appears that someone within our community was
doing
covert P2P file sharing by routing traffic (Gnutella music and video
files) through networked Xerox copiers and HVAC controllers.  This
resulted in a severe multicast storm that completely saturated our
campus
network, and caused most devices connected to the network to lock
up and
crash.  We discovered this with the help of a Boulder-based network
security firm and have since found a considerable amount of
information
about copier security vulnerabilities, e.g.,
www.cfo.com/article.cfm/3013471?f=related.  Cisco and our copier
manufacturer are helping with the analysis of our data traces but I
thought it would be worth asking just a few questions:



1.  Have any of you experienced anything like this?



2.  If so, how did you combat or fix the problem?



3.  Do you know of any other applications that could be causing this
problem?


On a possibly related note, we have seen a substantial increase in
MDNS
traffic on campus since school started.  During the summer, these
traffic
levels are typically less than 1% of all campus network traffic.
Now it
is about 50%, and growing.  Our traces indicate that all of this
traffic
is from Rendezvous (Bonjour) on mostly Macintosh computers.  Does
anyone
know of an easy way to manage or control this traffic?


Thanks for your help!




Andrew Watson
Sr. Systems Administrator
The  Colorado College
14 E. Cache La Poudre St.
Armstrong Hall, 1A
Colorado Springs, CO 80903
Phone: 719-389-6733
Fax: 719-389-6733



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