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Re: WSJ.com - Stop the Music!
From: "Bruhn, Mark S." <mbruhn () INDIANA EDU>
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2004 10:41:55 -0500
You poured some cold water on my tirade! I should have first asked about the policy being supported by the technology... M. -- Mark S. Bruhn, CISSP, CISM Chief IT Security and Policy Officer Associate Director, Center for Applied Cybersecurity Research (http://cacr.iu.edu) Office of the Vice President for Information Technology and CIO Indiana University 812-855-0326 Incidents involving IU IT resources: it-incident () iu edu Complaints/kudos about OVPIT/UITS services: itombuds () iu edu -----Original Message----- From: The EDUCAUSE Security Discussion Group Listserv [mailto:SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU] On Behalf Of Jordan Wiens Sent: Monday, August 23, 2004 10:36 AM To: SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU Subject: Re: [SECURITY] WSJ.com - Stop the Music! On Mon, 23 Aug 2004, Bruhn, Mark S. wrote:
"Last Oct. 1, the first day the university turned on Icarus, it caught 1,500 violators. In the months since then, it tracked down an
additional
2,500 first-time violators, 400 second-time violators, and seven third-time violators, who were cut off from the university's Internet connection for 30 days and sent to the student judiciary, with a
notice
placed in their permanent academic records." Violators? What they discovered was 1500 p2p application users, right? While I'm not
naive
enough to think that the vast majority of those weren't sharing copyrighted materials without permission, can they all be called "violators" like that, as a result of an automated process? Were each of these students contacted and given an opportunity to explain what they were actually doing? Seems like after that conversation would be the point at which they might be labeled "violators."
Yes, they are violators, no debate about it. There is a department policy that prevents running p2p software. They are violating policy by running such software. False positives aside, it's not a matter of illegal vs. legal sharing, it's a matter of the housing department protecting its bandwidth via policy that forbids servers and p2p applications. -- Jordan Wiens, CISSP UF Network Security Engineer (352)392-2061 ********** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Discussion Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/cg/. ********** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Discussion Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/cg/.
Current thread:
- WSJ.com - Stop the Music! Jere Retzer (Aug 23)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- Re: WSJ.com - Stop the Music! Jere Retzer (Aug 23)
- Re: WSJ.com - Stop the Music! Bruhn, Mark S. (Aug 23)
- Re: WSJ.com - Stop the Music! Scott Weeks (Aug 23)
- Re: WSJ.com - Stop the Music! Jordan Wiens (Aug 23)
- Re: WSJ.com - Stop the Music! Bruhn, Mark S. (Aug 23)
- Re: WSJ.com - Stop the Music! Bill Frazier (Aug 23)
- Re: WSJ.com - Stop the Music! Jere Retzer (Aug 23)
- Re: WSJ.com - Stop the Music! Jefferson, Ronnie V. (Aug 23)
- Re: WSJ.com - Stop the Music! Gibbs, Aaron M. (Aug 25)
- Re: WSJ.com - Stop the Music! Scott Bradner (Aug 25)