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Re: IM Security?? - Anyone written policies, selected products, got some lessons learned / war stories


From: Gary Dobbins <dobbins () ND EDU>
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 15:09:58 -0500

While IM is, like email, a "right" which is reasonably expected by
members of the university community, IMO (IANAL) it's also possible to
treat it as we do email, and thus leverage extant policies governing
that form of messaging.

Policies governing messaging must focus on, among other aspects,
defending users from the risks created by the potential carelessness
or errors of others, where possible/practical.

To that end, many of us already filter virii from email (analogous to
"public safety"), and may be agnostic as to content (preservation of
openness/freedom).  So it could stand to reason that it's therefore
prudent, and culturally tolerable, to filter malware/agents from IM as
well.

Another policy aspect (someone may have already mentioned this) is
that with currently-popular products (e.g. AIM) university messages
(do they, like email, count as university data/property on your
campus?) are being handled by an uncontracted-with third party.

Policies, extant, covering disclosure of certain university data to
third-parties may apply here, depending on your campus' rigor in
stipulation of internal-data disclosure.  (e.g. sending a comment
containing an individual's salary/SSN between two persons in HR, over
AIM, could transfer those data through external systems)


Matthew Keller wrote:

We are currently exploring the use of an in-house Jabber server
(http://www.jabber.org/ for general Jabber information, or
http://jabberd.jabberstudio.org/2/ for the server itself) for use by
students/staff/faculty. Jabberd is an OpenSource Jabber server, and the
Jabber protocols themselves are open standards. Jabber servers can also
be installed with gateways so you could allow users on you Jabber
servers to still talk to AOL/MSN/Yahoo/etc. users through your
environment, if you wanted to turn off general IM access.

Please note that we have _no_ plans to turn off general IM access and
are looking at ways of allowing our community members to build their own
groups and communicate securely with other in the community without
going to outside services.

On Tue, 2004-01-27 at 12:09, Dewitt Latimer wrote:

nothing other than we're contemplating the same questions and looking into
the feasibility of in-house IM service to complement base-line e-mail, web,
calendaring, etc.

Some concern as to whether the user community would use an in-house IM
service vs. an open AIM, MSN, Yahoo type service (Big Brother phenomenon).
And if so, would we take extraordinary steps to block said services from
traversing our net or accept the notion there is a role for them in an open
learning community.

-d

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Dewitt Latimer, Ph.D.
Deputy CIO and Chief Technology Officer
The University of Notre Dame
dewitt () nd edu

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Moore" <jhmfa () RIT EDU>
To: <SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU>
Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 12:03 PM
Subject: [SECURITY] IM Security?? - Anyone written policies, selected
products, got some lessons learned / war stories


We have usage of Instant Messaging at several campus locations.  Looking
into IM and IM security.  Anything people are willing to share?

Jim

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Jim Moore, CISSP, IAM
Information Security Officer
Rochester Institute of Technology
13 Lomb Memorial Drive
Rochester, NY 14623-5603
Office: 585-475-5406
Fax: 585-475-7950

"In cases of defence 'tis best to weigh the enemy more mighty than he
seems" - William Shakespeare (Henry V, Act 2, Scene 4)

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