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Re: time to name names (was Re: MORE BNY (Mellon Corp) Tapeslost)
From: "Patricia Herberger" <patricia57 () adelphia net>
Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 23:54:13 -0400
What about the "Liability Follows the Data" section of the FACTA Red Flags Rule? According to that Rule, both the courier and the company that gave their data to the courier would be at fault. Patricia L. Herberger Certified Identity Theft Risk Management Specialist -----Original Message----- From: dataloss-bounces () attrition org [mailto:dataloss-bounces () attrition org] On Behalf Of V. Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2008 8:45 PM To: DAIL, WILLARD A; security curmudgeon; dataloss () attrition org Subject: Re: [Dataloss] time to name names (was Re: MORE BNY (Mellon Corp) Tapeslost) At 07:30 PM 6/6/2008 -0400, DAIL, WILLARD A wrote:
Aside from the privacy issue, couriered tapes are also a concern due to the "Crash Restart" method of system attack. Basically, a hacker colludes with your courier to drop off your tapes in the morning. The courier then picks up the altered tapes that afternoon. A couple of really nasty things happened to your tapes that day.
<snip> In addition to the scenario outlined in Mr. Dail's post, imagine your tapes (or laptops) make an unauthorized stop just to be copied. Not so far fetched, and in many cases this type of loss would remain an unknown occurrence. All it requires is a payoff to someone -- the courier, or the custodian of the data. Almost everyone has a price; if bribed with enough money, many people will find they can't resist. Most identity loss is probably due to negligence and/or apathy, but collusion is a possibility which must be considered and investigated in many cases. If a courier is offered a large amount of cash to wait just a very few minutes while someone copies a hard disk, how many couriers could say no? While this scenario is hard to imagine in the case of a small business, tapes or backups belonging to big, influential entities are certainly at risk for this type of criminal behavior. (BTW, many people assume a laptop running Windoze is secure by virtue of having a boot password, but these can be bypassed by booting with a Linux CD. Remove the CD, shut down the laptop, return to courier.) $0.02, V. -- ___________________________________ /__________________________________ \ \ _______________________________/\ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \(c)2008 veedot () earthlink net\ \ \ \ \ \____________________________\_\ \ \ \/_________________________________\ \___________________________________/ "Doubt is not a pleasant condition, but certainty is absurd." - Voltaire _______________________________________________ Dataloss Mailing List (dataloss () attrition org) http://attrition.org/dataloss Tenable Network Security offers data leakage and compliance monitoring solutions for large and small networks. Scan your network and monitor your traffic to find the data needing protection before it leaks out! http://www.tenablesecurity.com/products/compliance.shtml _______________________________________________ Dataloss Mailing List (dataloss () attrition org) http://attrition.org/dataloss Tenable Network Security offers data leakage and compliance monitoring solutions for large and small networks. Scan your network and monitor your traffic to find the data needing protection before it leaks out! http://www.tenablesecurity.com/products/compliance.shtml
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