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Yawps from the rooftops


From: Dave Aitel via Dailydave <dailydave () lists aitelfoundation org>
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2023 09:32:30 -0400

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Yawps


So one thing I have as a "lessons learned" from the past 20 years is that
security is not a proactive sport. In fact, we are all experts at running
to where the ball _was_as opposed to where it is _going_.

Like, if you listen to Risky Biz this week, Patrick asks Metlstorm whether
it's time to go out and replace all the old enterprise file sharing systems
<https://twitter.com/vxunderground/status/1641629743534559233?s=20> you
have around, proactively. And the answer, from Metl, who's hacked into
every org in Oceania for the past 20 years, is "yeah, this is generating
huge return on investment for the ransomware crews so they're just going to
keep doing it, and being proactive might be a great idea." But what he
didn't say, but clearly had in his head was "but lol, nobody is going to
actually do that. So good luck out there chooms!"

At some level, STIX and TAXII and the whole CTI market are about passing
around information on what someone _might_ have used to hack something, at
some point in the _distant past_. It's a paleontology of hackers past - XML
schemas about huge ancient reptiles swimming in the tropical seas of
your networks, the taxonomies of extinct orders we now know only through a
delicate finger-like flipper bone or a clever piece of shellcode.

-dave

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