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Re: Improvements
From: Jimmy D <jimvictus () gmail com>
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2017 14:55:09 -0700
That pressure isn’t just from the C-suite. Many of us have been burned (at least indirectly) by a tool author who either abandoned locally built tools or who tried to use their knowledge of one as as a form of blackmail in salary negotiations or promotions. Add to that the fact that I pay people to perform specific functions usually aligned with their core skills. I’ve generally had tremendous respect for my team members (else they’d be elsewhere) and no real love of vendors or “big names”, but I know that isn’t the case for everyone. Obviously, this is completely different for a team in an actual software company. At the C level, I’ve also heard some pretty appalling stories of vendors (FireEye came up multiple times) threatening to alert regulators and media if a company has an incident and didn’t buy their product. My point is that these issues are often less straightforward than they might appear and that you shouldn’t infer a lack of faith/love/respect when your execs don’t let you write enterprise tools. P.S.: We used Hexadite at a former employer to eliminate the need for about 1.5 FTEs just by automating our process for responding to suspected phishing emails. Improved efficiency, 1/3 the cost, built-in metrics, 7x24x365 coverage, no real estate costs, and no HR complaints. There was much to be admired about that specific scenario for us. YMMV. Jim
On Feb 16, 2017, at 12:47 AM, Tracy Reed <treed () ultraviolet org> wrote: On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 08:46:34AM PST, Jordan Wiens spake thusly:It sounds like the specific actions and data ingests might be different, but the idea of rolling your own automated system hasn't changed a bit in ten years. Surprised to not hear more about the approach, but agree completely that no one vendor does it, and yet every vendor can easily be a part of it.In the industry that I see there is huge pressure from the c-suite to buy a pre-packaged product (aka silver bullet) and strong disincentive to spend time rolling your own custom franken-solution which the management will have no faith in because one of their own employees built it instead of a big name which can boast about magic quadrants and such. -- Tracy Reed _______________________________________________ Dailydave mailing list Dailydave () lists immunityinc com https://lists.immunityinc.com/mailman/listinfo/dailydave
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