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Re: Cicadas


From: dmaynor () gmail com
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2015 14:48:30 -0400

Dave,
Active Directory has long been my favorite target because of the power a Domain Admin wields combined with the odds and 
ends that get integrated means any bug can be devastating

The "cloud" has been making vast inroads in Enterprise customer bases. I find companies that have started post 2010 
that are large enough to require pen tests favor the out sourced infrastructure. 

Alas AD is becoming less important and Microsoft might come out ahead on the technical debt because the pushed the can 
down the road far enough to where they are no longer as important. 

DaveM 


On Sep 10, 2015, at 13:17, Dave Aitel <dave () immunityinc com> wrote:

Yagate shinu
  Keshiki wa miezu
      Semi no koe
      - Basho

I updated my SILICA this morning while making pancakes for the kids, as you do, and of course, all around me looked 
about with new eyes. I have a new mesh network that a friend installed in my house and it's interesting to see what 
it looks like to a wireless hacker. If you haven't seen the new SILICA video it is here: https://vimeo.com/136964755

There's this sense that hackers get which is divorced from what is in Wired or Business Insider or BlackHat which is 
"Works in the Wild".  It's a palpable thing, that sets priorities like a hot oil such that you can tell who has "Gone 
Active", as they say, from their recoiling from various technologies. One technology that is currently on the hot 
plate is Active Directory. You can see from talks even at DefCon that people are looking at WMI as a persistence 
mechanism in the wild. And the Microsoft talk from INFILTRATE 2014 went over a whole methodology for attacking Active 
Directory networks that dragged public discussion of the techniques into the modern age. For decades AD has been a 
disaster from a security perspective - by design - and now all that technical debt is coming due like a storm of 
cicadas chirping their last song.

-dave
 

 


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