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Re: Weev's collateral damage.


From: Dan Tentler <dan () atenlabs com>
Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2012 09:40:13 -0800

There was some healthy discussion on twitter yesterday about potential
fallout in terms of new laws or legislature - the way these people tend
to handle things they find scary is the same way the TSA does. Some guy
puts a bomb in his shoes? Everyone has to take their shoes off to get
xrayed. Some are worried that the simple act of writing a bashone-liner
to curl or wget results with an iterating number now qualifiesthem for
an orange jumpsuit. Technically speaking, that makes components of every
major search engine unlawful.

It's just so very very weird, It'll be interesting to see how it plays
out, that's for certain.

-Dan

On 11/21/12 9:05 AM, Dave Aitel wrote:
http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/11/att-hacker-found-guilty/

So I'm no fan of Weev aka Andrew Auernheimer. The man is seriously
disturbed and it's odd to see people support him
<https://twitter.com/maradydd/status/271067146145107968> on Twitter.
Just as an example, here's some bizarre rape porn I'm fairly sure he
and his friends posted about my wife on full disclosure (and to DD
before it was moderated - in fact, Weev is the reason moderation is on
this list at all):
http://lists.grok.org.uk/pipermail/full-disclosure/2006-March/043638.html
. Here's a post about him torturing some kid "for the lulz":
http://crimint.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/deutschland-deutschland-uber-alles-encyclopc3a6dia-dramatica-forums_1294380601283-chrome.png


I think it's fair to say the likelihood of Weev having done something
that deserves some level of criminal liability is pretty high. That
said, this is not it. Keep in mind the data Weev collected was email
addresses and names. Nothing sensitive in the slightest. Everything
they collected was essentially sent in cleartext over the Internet at
some point.

It's obvious to anyone with any technical background that the case the
FBI brought against him is a travesty, and the fact that they won is
even more insane. It's this sort of thing that makes it obvious the
DHS doesn't understand the Internet, and shouldn't be given more
control over it, which is what John McCain has been saying for the
last year or so. Cases like this make everyone look bad - and if they
manage to make it stick, the collateral damage is all of us.

-dave


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