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Re: On exploiting null ptr derefs, disabling SELinux, andsilently fixed Linux vulns
From: Thomas Ptacek <tqbf () matasano com>
Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 14:53:10 -0600
It really sounds like you two are saying the same thing. The flaw isn't a NULL pointer dereference, it's a u/k address folding that happens to involve an offset from NULL. It really doesn't sound like either of you disagree that "NULL pointer reads are exploitable in the common case"; I thought that was Zalewski's point. On Mar 5, 2007, at 8:23 AM, TINNES Julien RD-MAPS-ISS wrote:
To sum it up, you control what is at any address in user-land (you've already got arbitrary code execution and can use mmap/munmap) and, because of a flaw (a to-user-land pointer dereference), the kernel will 'think' his data is in some area you control (here the first page of the process).
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