Re: Dailydave Digest, Vol 8, Issue 7

[Thomas Lim <thomas () coseinc com>]

Dave, Matt

Both of you are hilarious. I can't stop laughing. Anyway, thanks for the 
publicity.

Besides good content, I can assure all of you who attend this 
conference, you will get loads of fun, booze and ...eh...booze. 
According to the hotel where SyScan'06 was held (Bangkok), I ran up the 
highest mini-bar bill ever in that hotel, no thanks to crazy Americans, 
French, Germans, British and Chinese that somehow managed to bypass 
hotel "security".

A few more things about Singapore:

1. You can chew gum but you cant sell them. So...you would have to bring 
your own.

2. Oral sex as an end is illegal but as a mean to an end if fine. I'M 
NOT KIDDING.

Thank you
Thomas Lim
COSEINC Private Limited

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> Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2006 17:34:38 -0500
> From: Dave Aitel <dave () immunityinc com>
> Subject: [Dailydave] July 20th, 2006 - Syscan
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> So the best thing about small conferences is that they can experiment
> a bit. The one I went to in Japan had ambient beats playing underneath
> and in between the talks - and, of course, they had hacking of random
> web sites live on stage. Don't get to see that much. They pretty much
> pioneered the shorter talk lengths now common in the bigger conferences.
>
> So bigger is not always better. Bigger often means powerful "sponsors"
> who can dictate what sorts of talks are allowed. Bigger often means 5
> tracks, where you really only want to see the five that are on all the
> same time at 10am. Bigger often means talks from sponsors, where you
> don't realize the talk is a paid advertisement.
>
> http://www.syscan.org/ is not a big conference. This is probably one
> of its strengths. The other strength is the organizers - Thomas Lim is
> someone you've probably seen at one of the other conferences, and
> myself, Matthew Conover, and SK Chong are also on the CFP committee,
> which means papers will be vetted for technical content quite carefully.
>
> A little about Singapore itself:
> Singapore has steamed stingray for sale at huge outdoors cafeterias.
> It has a 7-11 on every block, and it has a business friendly attitude.
> Unless you're in Malaysia, it's a fair distance away from you, but so
> is everywhere cool.
>
> So be there, or be square. :>
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> Thanks,
> Dave Aitel
> Immunity, Inc.
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> Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 00:51:37 -0800
> From: "Matt Conover" <mconover () gmail com>
> Subject: Re: [Dailydave] July 20th, 2006 - Syscan
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> hmm wow i agreed with almost all of that :)
>
>
> > So the best thing about small conferences is that they can experiment a
>
> bit
>
> speaking of which.. i have invented "a method and apparatus to preseve 0day
> even during public disclosure at security conferences." for the good of the
> community, i'll share my trade secrets:
> 1. present at a conference where attendees are not very fluent in the
> language you present it
> 2. speak very quickly. avoid pausing for breaths, this will give the
> audience the opportunity to digest what you've just said.
> 3. use lots of idioms
> 4. be sure your slides are not available ahead of time
> 5. refuse to be recorded. if you can afford it, hire security staff to pat
> down attendees for contraband (voice recorders, camcorders, etc.). the MPAA
> hasn't yet discovered the value of mandatory pat downs at movie theatres...
>
> these steps will the 0day remains 0day even after it's publicly presented..
> possibly even at numerous conferences until your material is finally
> deciphered and redistributed in plainspeak.
>
>
> > http://www.syscan.org/ is not a big conference. This is probably one
> > of its strengths. The other strength is the organizers - Thomas Lim ...
>
> Yeah for sure. My three favorite conferences are due to the organizers:
> 1. cansecwest isn't cansecwest without dragos
> 2. xcon isn't xcon without xfocus
> 3. syscan isn't syscan without thomas
>
>
> > myself, Matthew Conover, and SK Chong are also on the CFP committee,
> > which means papers will be vetted for technical content quite carefully.
>
> i promise to try to get anything on windows vista approved :) i'll speak on
> something about it if there are some others. u know how it goes... i'll show
> u mine if u show me urs.
>
>
> > A little about Singapore itself:
> > It has a 7-11 on every block
>
>
> Ohh I thought that was Thailand :P
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