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Re: This just in: Firewalls are obsolete


From: "I)ruid" <druid () caughq org>
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 12:14:09 -0500

On Tue, 2005-07-12 at 01:39 +0200, Florian Weimer wrote:
* Blue Boar:

Firewalls exist so that people can do risky things behind them.  Such as
running complex protocols.

In order to offer any protection, the firewall has to implement the
complex protocol -- and countless others.  This means that the
firewall vendor is at a disadvantage compared to the original protocol
author (less focus, often less information).  I don't think most
firewall vendors use radically different implementation techniques;
it's mostly C or C++, with the usual problems.  Often, the net result
is a protocol implementation at the firewall level which is
incomplete, does not completely protect the actual service, and has
security bugs on its own.

He said /behind/ the firewall, not /through/ the firewall.  If complex
protocol X is being spoken internally on ports 214 & 31337, the firewall
itself couldn't care less how to speak the protocol, it just knows it's
blocking ports 214 & 31337.

-- 
I)ruid, CĀ²ISSP
druid () caughq org
http://druid.caughq.org
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