Dailydave mailing list archives
Re: This just in: Firewalls are obsolete
From: "I)ruid" <druid () caughq org>
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 12:14:09 -0500
On Tue, 2005-07-12 at 01:39 +0200, Florian Weimer wrote:
* Blue Boar:Firewalls exist so that people can do risky things behind them. Such as running complex protocols.In order to offer any protection, the firewall has to implement the complex protocol -- and countless others. This means that the firewall vendor is at a disadvantage compared to the original protocol author (less focus, often less information). I don't think most firewall vendors use radically different implementation techniques; it's mostly C or C++, with the usual problems. Often, the net result is a protocol implementation at the firewall level which is incomplete, does not completely protect the actual service, and has security bugs on its own.
He said /behind/ the firewall, not /through/ the firewall. If complex protocol X is being spoken internally on ports 214 & 31337, the firewall itself couldn't care less how to speak the protocol, it just knows it's blocking ports 214 & 31337. -- I)ruid, CĀ²ISSP druid () caughq org http://druid.caughq.org
_______________________________________________ Dailydave mailing list Dailydave () lists immunitysec com https://lists.immunitysec.com/mailman/listinfo/dailydave
Current thread:
- Re: This just in: Firewalls are obsolete, (continued)
- Re: This just in: Firewalls are obsolete Florian Weimer (Jul 11)
- Re: This just in: Firewalls are obsolete Gadi Evron (Jul 11)
- Re: This just in: Firewalls are obsolete Florian Weimer (Jul 11)
- Re: This just in: Firewalls are obsolete Gadi Evron (Jul 11)
- Re: This just in: Firewalls are obsolete Gadi Evron (Jul 11)
- Re: This just in: Firewalls are obsolete Blue Boar (Jul 11)
- Re: This just in: Firewalls are obsolete Florian Weimer (Jul 11)
- Re: This just in: Firewalls are obsolete Gadi Evron (Jul 11)
- Re: This just in: Firewalls are obsolete Florian Weimer (Jul 11)
- Re: This just in: Firewalls are obsolete Blue Boar (Jul 11)
- Re: This just in: Firewalls are obsolete Blue Boar (Jul 11)
- Re: This just in: Firewalls are obsolete I)ruid (Jul 12)
- Re: This just in: Firewalls are obsolete Florian Weimer (Jul 11)
- Re: This just in: Firewalls are obsolete Florian Weimer (Jul 11)
- Re: This just in: Firewalls are obsolete Gadi Evron (Jul 11)
- Re: This just in: Firewalls are obsolete Florian Weimer (Jul 11)
- Re: This just in: Firewalls are obsolete byte_jump (Jul 12)
- Re: This just in: Firewalls are obsolete dan (Jul 12)