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Re: Lame studies that people quote as fact that haveno basis in reality and still don't prove anything even if they did

From: H D Moore <hdm-daily-dave () digitaloffense net>
Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2004 21:43:59 -0600

On Wednesday 04 February 2004 09:08 pm, you wrote:

still you have not named one remote "shell popping" vulnerability in
the default install.


True, I misread your statement, I was referring to a typical installation 
instead of the out-of-the-box state. Most of the "shell popping" bugs are 
in non-default services (uPnP, SNMP, etc). Some vendors shipped 98 with 
these services enabled, but it doesn't really count as a default install. 
There were a ton of services shipped with the default install but not 
enabled, I am guessing these also don't apply for your comparison.

yes, there are BSOD but they do not matter much for real  hackers, only 
fame seeking win32 vuln researchers.


So Guninski is a fame-seeking win32 vuln researcher? :-)  He posted his 
ipv6 crash bug for obsd today...

Anyhow, didn't mean to start a debate, just thought of a handful of 98 
bugs off-hand.

ping!
-noir


-HD
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