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Re: [Full-disclosure] 0day: PDF pwns Windows
From: "Wayne D. Hoxsie Jr." <wayne () hoxnet com>
Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 13:37:57 -0500
Steven Adair wrote:
Not in my book. I guess the people on this list are working off too many different definitions of 0day. 0day to me is something for which there is no patch/update at the time of the exploit being coded/used. So if I code an exploit for IE right now and they don't patch it until April September 2008, it's a 0day exploit for a year. It's not necessarily new and it doesn't have to be used maliciously. If I code an exploit (for which there is no patch) and use it on my own servers, does that mean it's not 0day? I don't think so. If my WordPress blog gets owned by pwnpress, that's not 0day.. there's patches/updates for everything on there. It just makes me an idiot for not upgrading. Now if I get hit with some WP exploit that's not patched, then that's another [0-day] story. Steven securityzone.org
If you're going to steal a term from the biological community at least use in in the same context. The biological metaphor is getting stretched so much that people forget that these terms have meaning outside the IT realm.
-- Wayne D. Hoxsie Jr.
Current thread:
- 0day: PDF pwns Windows pdp (architect) (Sep 20)
- Re: 0day: PDF pwns Windows Gadi Evron (Sep 20)
- Re: 0day: PDF pwns Windows Crispin Cowan (Sep 21)
- Re: [Full-disclosure] 0day: PDF pwns Windows Steven Adair (Sep 21)
- Re: [Full-disclosure] 0day: PDF pwns Windows Chad Perrin (Sep 21)
- Re: [Full-disclosure] 0day: PDF pwns Windows Wayne D. Hoxsie Jr. (Sep 21)
- Re: [Full-disclosure] 0day: PDF pwns Windows bugtraq (Sep 21)
- Re: 0day: PDF pwns Windows Crispin Cowan (Sep 21)
- Re: [Full-disclosure] 0day: PDF pwns Windows coderman (Sep 21)
- Re: 0day: PDF pwns Windows Casper . Dik (Sep 21)
- Re: 0day: PDF pwns Windows J. Oquendo (Sep 21)
- Re: 0day: PDF pwns Windows Gadi Evron (Sep 20)
- Re: 0day: PDF pwns Windows Crispin Cowan (Sep 24)
- Re: 0day: PDF pwns Windows Chad Perrin (Sep 24)
- Re: 0day: PDF pwns Windows Crispin Cowan (Sep 24)
- Re: [Full-disclosure] 0day: PDF pwns Windows J. Oquendo (Sep 25)
- Re: 0day: PDF pwns Windows Lamont Granquist (Sep 25)
- Re: 0day: PDF pwns Windows Roland Kuhn (Sep 25)