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RE: Standing Up Against German Laws - Project HayNeedle
From: "Quark IT - Hilton Travis" <Hilton () QuarkIT com au>
Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 13:05:23 +1000
-----Original Message----- From: Florian Echtler [mailto:echtler () in tum de] Sent: Tuesday, 13 November 2007 20:00If I read the law correctly, it requires retention of "what IP connected to another IP" and "which phone number called where." It doesn't bother retaining the URL called (my German is rusty, so I
may
be a little off in my interpretation). Connecting to a random IP on
a
random open port (80 and 443, for example) would be a good start to accomplish the goal creating chatter. The issue is that the search terms to find those ports could lead to connecting to a site that increases your profile against general background chatter, even as
it
is raised with random connection traffic.As a native German speaker, allow me to clarify: with respect to IP communication, the law mandates saving the following information for 6 months: - which customer was assigned which IP for what timespan - sender mail address, receiver mail address and sender IP for each mail - in case of VOIP: caller and callee phone number and IP address So it wouldn't make much sense to create connection noise on a TCP or HTTP basis, as this stuff isn't logged. I think one should rather concentrate on generating email noise in this regard. Yours, Florian
Hi Florian, The issue with sending email noise is that there is already too much of it already and it is already classified under the banner "spam". I can almost guarantee that were you to start sending random email to many servers, most of their owners would block your IP immediately, or at least look at ways of adding you to RBLs and reporting you to whichever authorities are responsible for enforcing anti-spam and anti-DOS laws. -- "I'd rather be DOSed than VISTAd" - Hilton Travis, 2007 Regards, Hilton Travis Phone: +61 (0)7 3105 9101 (Brisbane, Australia) Phone: +61 (0)419 792 394 Manager, Quark IT www.quarkit.com.au Director, Quark Group www.quarkgroup.com.au War doesn't determine who is right. War determines who is left. This document and any attachments are for the intended recipient only. It may contain confidential, privileged or copyright material which must not be disclosed or distributed. Quark Group Pty. Ltd. T/A Quark Automation, Quark AudioVisual, Quark IT
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- Re: Standing Up Against German Laws - Project HayNeedle Frank Guthausen (Nov 14)
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