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Re: Major hack attack on the U.S. Senate
From: Daniel.Capo () tco net br
Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2004 14:13:36 -0200
Christian Vogel wrote:
i think "technical" people often think of the law-system as something as C-code, as it's written there is only one way for a standard compliant compiler to interpret it. I think the judges are more flexible than gcc in this regard, they can also assume that one perfectly knows that one is supposed to read http://www.cnn.com but not to read http://qz25srv.competitor.com/internal/memos/strategy.doc (made up example) even if -- from a technical standpoint -- there is no difference.
What concerns me most is that not one objection I received addressed the point I made. I spoke of the _legal_ definition of "hacking", and all people came up with was disagreement based on their own personal feelings on the matter.
Excuse me, but personal feelings in this matter is irrelevant. People objected to the press applying the term "hacking" to what happened, and I pointed out that their usage was correct according to the law, assuming their portrayal of the events was accurate.
And every single person who objected did so on the grounds that they don't like this definition. Sheesh. Who cares? This is bugtraq, not slashdot. Prove me wrong by quoting legislation, point out that the facts of the case do not lead to this conclusion, but, please, more signal, less noise.
On a side not, I'm a technical person myself, and I much dislike this fuzzyness in the law. This case seems pretty clear, but I can conjure up dozens of real life scenarios where it's ambiguous or the actual ruling would be "just wrong", IMHO. And that's all that this is: mho.
Current thread:
- Re: Major hack attack on the U.S. Senate Mariusz Woloszyn (Feb 02)
- Re: [security] Re: Major hack attack on the U.S. Senate rsh (Feb 03)
- Re: [security] Re: Major hack attack on the U.S. Senate Bernie, CTA (Feb 04)
- RE: [security] Re: Major hack attack on the U.S. Senate Larry Seltzer (Feb 07)
- Re: [security] Re: Major hack attack on the U.S. Senate Bernie, CTA (Feb 04)
- Re: Major hack attack on the U.S. Senate Christian Vogel (Feb 03)
- Re: Major hack attack on the U.S. Senate Ron DuFresne (Feb 03)
- Re: Major hack attack on the U.S. Senate Daniel . Capo (Feb 03)
- Re: Major hack attack on the U.S. Senate Thomas M. Payerle (Feb 06)
- RE: Major hack attack on the U.S. Senate David Schwartz (Feb 03)
- Re: [security] Re: Major hack attack on the U.S. Senate rsh (Feb 03)