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Re: Security Hole in Axent ESM


From: shields () CROSSLINK NET (Michael Shields)
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 18:24:30 +0000


In article <199808300501.BAA08612 () Bahamut dragonfire net>,
Andy Church <achurch () DRAGONFIRE NET> wrote:
     In other words, if you can't manually set the clock back, get the
system to do it for you.  And if the system doesn't allow the clock to
"turn over", then all sorts of things will go bonkers when the clock hits
its maximum (cron jobs, for one), turning this into a DoS of sorts.  So I
don't see this as a particularly effective measure.  One way I could see to
make this more effective would be to use 64-bit times and disallow both
setting the clock back and changing the top 2 bits to anything other than
zero.  This would break the rollover attack without causing any premature
Y2k-like problems (2^62 seconds ~= 10^13 years).

This is still a DOS of sorts, as you can set the clock to 2^62-1, and
then it will be impossible to return the clock to the correct time
without rebooting.  Many things will probably be unhappy to find
themselves 10^13 years in the future.
--
Shields, CrossLink.



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