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RE: Hashing passwords


From: Dave Kleiman <dave () davekleiman com>
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 13:03:18 -0500

Haz,

Do you mean to compare how salting and hash against hashing multiple times and how long it would take to brute force 
each?


Respectfully,

Dave Kleiman - http://www.ComputerForensicsLLC.com - http://www.DaveKleiman.com

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I know that and you probably misread the question or my explanation 
was not clear enough.

My question was: is hashing two or three times (without a salt) a 
secure method or is it as secure as hashing only one time without salt?


Oh sorry, I really misunderstood your question.

As far as i understood, it can significally improve the secure of the 
"clear text" passwords but, with a reaaaaaaally big hash db, you can 
crack it.

I do agree with you when you say that it will give the same hash for 
same passwords, even if i hash it infinite times. So i guess that I'll 
have to study the security/performance effects of such measure. Maybe 
one day I'll present it to the world.

Thanks all for the answers. I'm really grateful.
--haZ


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