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Re: HOW TO PREVENT FHISHING ATTACKS


From: Nikhil Manampady <nikhil.manampady () paladion net>
Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 13:29:59 +0530

Hi,

The watermark is being used by our company for antiphishing services
for banks and the watermark  is obfuscated in the HTML source of the
bank website.

I am not sure of how the watermark works but I think either the valid
domains and IP are also obfuscated or the script does a reverse DNS
lookup and triggers an alert if the domain and reverse dns lookup does
not match.


Thanks & Regards,
Nikhil Manampady,
Security Consultant,
Paladion Networks.





On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 12:42 PM, John Renne <john () gniffelnieuws net> wrote:
Hi,
This might sound like an idea but poses a risk too. If a phisher copies the
sourcecode, he'll probably adjust the IP's too. Customers will get a false
feeling of trust since the watermark is correct.
If you want to do such a thing, I'ld try to hide the IP's (and probably some
more info) in a generated JPEG on the site, and include something like an
applet which checks the watermark. I'ld always try to hide it from the users
though.
John
On Feb 4, 2011, at 5:41 AM, Nikhil Manampady wrote:

Hi,

One of the more proactive things is to have a watermark in the banks HTML
source code which contains a list of IP's on which the bank's website domain
is registered.

If a phisher copies the HTML source code and hosts it on the phished site,
the watermark will check that this rogue IP is not part of the whitleisted
bank domain IP's it can send an alert to the security team.

That way the phished site can be bought down before the customer gets
redirected to it.

Thanks & Regards,
Nikhil Manampady,
Security Consultant,
Paladion Networks.




On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 2:50 AM, John Renne <john () gniffelnieuws net> wrote:

Hi everyone,

This problem is a bit harder then it seems at first sight. First of all,
SPF's won't help you very much. In any case, it's not something a bank can
enforce. It's the customers e-mail provider which will have to implement
this. These however are out of the banks control.

The second problem is a dilemma. You can always have a communication
strategy that consists of a few simple steps
- Tell all your customers official bank correspondation goes by mail from
a certain address (this however is easy to spoof so no solution)
- Tell all your customers all of your e-mail correspondation contains some
sort header / footer etc. (this however is easy to include / manipulate)
- Exclude mail from the official channels of communication (but what if
you -want- to e-mail users)

It mostly comes down to security awareness. This is something both
customers and banks should realise

A number of more things can be thought of but mostly it all breaks down to
finding a balance between a few things
- ease of use for customers (if customers think it's too hard they'll find
another bank)
- cost effectiveness (never spend a dollar to secure a cent)
- trust (make sure the customer gets the idea you are secure)

But this is just my 2 cents
John



On Jan 31, 2011, at 8:44 PM, Filiberto Moreno wrote:

Hello Everyone,

We were experiencing a similar scenario here at my current place of
employment and we ended up having to do the following steps:

1. We had all the IT support technicians to list all the applications,
scheduled tasks, and services that were running under the administrator
account.
2. Once we got the list put together we had the IT technicians remove
those accounts and replace them with their own and had them confirm.
3. Once it was confirmed the IT director changed the password on the
Domain Administrator account to a very long passphrase with upper case,
lower case, special characters, and numbers.
4. The IT director typed it up in a document and printed it out, sealed
it in an envelope, and deposited it in a bank safe.

Hope this helps.

Fili

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On Behalf Of Patrick Webster
Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2011 7:43 PM
To: mzcohen2682 () aim com
Cc: security-basics () securityfocus com
Subject: Re: HOW TO PREVENT FHISHING ATTACKS

Hi Marco,

Use Sender Policy Framework - see
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sender_Policy_Framework and
http://www.openspf.org/

SPF is a DNS txt record which indicates whether a MTA (such as
hotmail, gmail, good ISPs) should accept email purportedly from
@bank.com when the source IP is i.e. a botnet.

-Patrick
http://www.osisecurity.com.au/

On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 10:44 AM,  <mzcohen2682 () aim com> wrote:
Hi Guys,

I am preparing a set of recommendation for a client of mine which is a
bank
, a set of controls against fhisging attacks, besides of telling the
bank to
teach there customers how to protect against those attacks ( not
opening
suspicious mails etc etc) what other recommendations are good? are
there
some technological tools to prevent those attacks that the bank can
implement? I heard something about imperva radar service which should
protect against fishing attack, some one has experience with that tool?
what
about other tools that the bank can implement?

many thanks!

Marco


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