Re: Microsoft CAL license needed to install Security Software

[murdamcloud () bigpond com]

Economic terrorism? Have you been watching Max Keiser, Jeffrey?lol. Have to agree with you re: the DoJ and who they 
selectively target. Blankfiend and his friends will not appear on any charges of substance. Though Wells Fargo did get 
found out laundering Mexican drug money. How much influence does Buffet have? Influence is the mother of necessity. Can 
you say 'we don't need no Charlie Munger let the mother.....' 
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-----Original Message-----
From: Jeffrey Walton <noloader () gmail com>
Sender: listbounce () securityfocus com
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 12:28:13 
To: Murda<murdamcloud () bigpond com>
Reply-To: noloader () gmail com
Cc: John Morrison<john.morrison101 () gmail com>; <security-basics () securityfocus com>
Subject: Re: Microsoft CAL license needed to install Security Software

On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 1:42 AM, Murda <murdamcloud () bigpond com> wrote:
> Coming soon;
> MS Pay-Per-View....
The US Department of Justice would probably have a fit*. I think MS
side stepped it by buying into Comcast years ago.

* Its hard to tell what will draw the ire of DoJ. Economic terrorism
(US Financial Industry) appears OK. Anti-competitive practices, such
as controlling both the hardware and software (Apple), appears OK. But
bundling a browser with the OS (Microsoft) is out of bounds. And
gaming TicketMaster's system (WiseGuy Tickets) will get a PATRIOT Act
like response.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: listbounce () securityfocus com [mailto:listbounce () securityfocus com] On
> Behalf Of John Morrison
> Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 5:07 AM
> To: security-basics () securityfocus com
> Subject: Re: Microsoft CAL license needed to install Security Software
>
> I've been through the same pain. Windows looks good value to begin
> with, but as the number grow...  One place I worked had thousands of
> tills that connected for updates. We ended up by processor-based
> licenses for the servers instead.
>
> On 28 September 2010 19:37, Ivan Carlos <icarlos () icarlos net> wrote:
> > Its something wrong there. You dont need cals to each user that access a
> website running over IIS.
> > Microsoft Support or anybody can answer for sure about your own licensing
> program... Its terrible.
> > Ivan Carlos
> > Chief Information & Security Officer
> > E-mail / GTalk / Skype / WLM: icarlos () icarlos net
> > Cell.: +55 (11) 8112-0666
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Florian Rommel <frommel () gmail com>
> > Sent: terça-feira, 28 de setembro de 2010 15:23
> > To: security-basics () securityfocus com <security-basics () securityfocus com>;
> Ansgar Wiechers <bugtraq () planetcobalt net>
> > Subject: RE: Microsoft CAL license needed to install Security Software
> >
> > True, though you could argue that you purchase a license to run and use
> the operating system, not for other machines to use it.
> > Boy i like my xserve :)
> > //f
> > http://go-dslr.com ...bringing digital photography to the masses
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ansgar Wiechers
> > Sent:  28/09/2010, 18:00
> > To: security-basics () securityfocus com
> > Subject: Re: Microsoft CAL license needed to install Security Software
> >
> >
> >
> > On 2010-09-27 Florian Rommel wrote:
> > > This is correct. Cals are needed if you access any kind of service
> > > hosted within a windows server platform. Consider it like a bubble
> > > within a bubble. The outer bubble is windows server and the innwr the
> > > 3rd party software. While they have nothing linking them, you still
> > > need to go through the outer shell.
> > > I do think that you chould purchase a corecal for all clients. This
> > > covers any windows server and windows based services.
> >
> > Pretty nice business model, ain't it? First you pay for a server, and
> > then you pay *again* so you can actually use the server that you already
> > paid for.
> >
> > It never ceases to amaze me how customers put up with that.
> >
> > Regards
> > Ansgar Wiechers
> > --
> > "All vulnerabilities deserve a public fear period prior to patches
> > becoming available."
> > --Jason Coombs on Bugtraq

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