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Re: Judge orders defendant to decrypt PGP-protected laptop - CNET News
From: "0x90" <secbasics () spam gagspace com>
Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 20:58:57 +0100
Okay... so one side says it's 5th amendment rights, the other side says it's just like searching a house.
To point out something clearly obvious: they can search your house, get your blood & do DNA testing, take your stuff away etc without your interaction. Asking for a password is asking for _information_. It's kind of like asking for your offshore bank account number or something.
Exactly what the 5th amendment right is about, if i'm not mistaken.On a side note: I have crypt containers lying around on different HD's that I may have not even used, or did - but for benchmarking purposes, or even used it and temporarily and haven't opened it in years... following the court's logic, i'm a criminal if i don't remember the password to them (and i seriously don't). I don't think this is okay.
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To: <security-basics () securityfocus com> Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 10:49 PMSubject: Re: Re: Judge orders defendant to decrypt PGP-protected laptop - CNET News
I agree with the others on this. If it was that simple, then a person could deny a search warrant on their home, using the 5th ammendment. By not giving them the password, I would even see that as obstruction of justice.Of course all this could have been avoided had they followed basic forensic methods.
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