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FW: A Question of Quality
From: "Nevil Patel" <nevil.patel () gmail com>
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 23:24:07 +0500
These issues need to be handled first at the client end with due diligence in terms of their project management, vendor management and outsourcing processes. Plus the ability of their Managers to get the needed finances to do a good job. Whether outsourcing or in-sourcing software quality depends on the processes being followed. These processes are definitely not limited to guidelines on how to build the software, they include hiring, training, etc. If quality is important, it would be prudent for one to outsource work to a minimum CMMI Level 3 company to do the development. Preferably one that is also ISO certified - because then they are externally audited ever 6-12 months Plus has a long list of Client references. Obviously they will charge more for following additional processes and testing procedures that ensure better quality. The level of security required is a different issue, it must be clearly specified as (nonfunctional) requirements in the Functional Specs document which then becomes part of the contract that the client signs with the developer. Depending on the level of security required there will obviously be an impact on the software architecture and thus the price of the project. -----Original Message----- From: listbounce () securityfocus com [mailto:listbounce () securityfocus com] On Behalf Of Robert Hajime Lanning Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 12:24 AM To: Security Basics; Web Application Security Subject: Re: A Question of Quality On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 4:55 PM, Yousef Syed <yousef.syed () gmail com> wrote:
Why isn't Quality Assumed? Why isn't Security Assumed? Why are these concepts thought of as add ons to Applications and Services? Why do they need to be specified, when they should be taken for granted? - Input Validation - Boundary Conditions - Encrypt Data as necessary - Least Privilege Access - White lists are better than Black lists
I believe one of the issues is, pride of ownership in the end product. A lot of the coding is now outsourced to cheap code houses. These people do not have ownership or attribution. They have no reason to take any extra steps, that are not specified in the contract. If it is not in the contract, they are not being paid for it. It's like a building contractor. If it is not in the blue prints, it does not go into the finished building. That is why a building spec is a thick book, that goes all the way to specifying the exact screw to use. -- And, did Galoka think the Ulus were too ugly to save? -Centauri
Current thread:
- Re: A Question of Quality Robert Hajime Lanning (Nov 03)
- RE: A Question of Quality Nevil Patel (Nov 03)
- Re: A Question of Quality Daniƫl W. Crompton (Nov 04)
- Re: A Question of Quality Deaths_Fury (Nov 04)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- FW: A Question of Quality Nevil Patel (Nov 03)
- Re: A Question of Quality Yousef Syed (Nov 03)
- Re: A Question of Quality rohnskii (Nov 06)