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RE: Seeking a solution for detecting hidden cameras


From: "Steven Adair" <steven () securityzone org>
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 10:49:53 -0500 (EST)

Sorry if I have missed a response that clarified this, but are we making
the assumption that this camera is transmitting wirelessly?  Most of the
solutions are centered around trying to catch or block RF signals it
seems.  There was a suggestion about making the room so that it would be
obvious if there was tampering.  This is probably a good solution, but
this requires someone must be paying attention.  Generally there are
mirrors, bench seating, pin cushion areas, etc.  It might still be
possible to slip something in that may go unnoticed.

If we are making the assumption this device is broadcasting, I might
suggest a product called Spectrum Analyzer from AirMagnet
(http://www.airmagnet.com/products/spectrum.htm).  I'm sure it's not cheap
and I am not affiliated with them in any way.  I've used another product
of theirs and came across this in the past.  There might be other similar
products, but the point is that it can locate and identity a wide breadth
of different signals.  This isn't just some 802.11 tool.  Check it out.

Steven

No need to jam, a wire mesh placed in the walls and grounded will stop
most RF devices cold.
The mesh should be of the same type as screen door mesh (must be wire
though!) to be able to stop any 2ghz signals. The mesh would also need
to be electrically contiguous of course.

Might make it hard to drill as well, the mesh would foul any powered
bits and a hand tool would have great difficulty dealing with it as
well.

Todd Mondragon

-----Original Message-----
From: listbounce () securityfocus com [mailto:listbounce () securityfocus com]
On Behalf Of Murda Mcloud
Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2007 7:53 PM
To: 'Pranav Lal'; security-basics () securityfocus com
Subject: RE: Seeking a solution for detecting hidden cameras


One thing to do would be to build the room as clean and free from places
that cameras could be hidden etc. ie no benches etc. Make it so that any
tampering would be obvious.
Also, make the walls etc out of something that would be hard to drill a
pinhole in.

Then some of those detectors that you listed could be used-though I
can't
vouch for any of them.
Maybe there's a way of jamming signals too?

-----Original Message-----
From: listbounce () securityfocus com [mailto:listbounce () securityfocus com]
On
Behalf Of Pranav Lal
Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 6:08 PM
To: security-basics () securityfocus com
Subject: Seeking a solution for detecting hidden cameras

Hi all,

I have been asked by a client to find a solution for detecting cameras
in dressing rooms etc. The client has trial rooms where customers can
try various garments. The concern is that  some one could plant a
camera in one of these rooms and photograph customers.

I have checked online and have found the following sources;
http://www.brickhousesecurity.com/sf-103.html
http://www.spytechs.com/bug_sweep_equip/vcd_43.htm
http://www.pimall.com/nais/countervideo.html
http://www.intpro.co.uk/pinhole.htm
http://www.intpro.co.uk/camera%20detector.htm
Are there any others? Has any one on this list tried any such
solutions? I have found an interesting reference on hiding and
detecting cameras at
http://www.tentacle.franken.de/papers/hiddencams.pdf

Pranav



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