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RE: Removing Local Admin Rights...


From: "David Gillett" <gillettdavid () fhda edu>
Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2004 09:41:19 -0700

  MY preferred solution is to give developers two machines --
an old/small/slow one for browser/email/etc which is treated
just like any other user's machine, and a development box on
a sandbox network that they can trash to their heart's content,
because IT won't fix it.

Dave Gillett


-----Original Message-----
From: Faisal Masood [mailto:faisyuet () wol net pk]
Sent: Monday, May 31, 2004 1:43 PM
To: simont () pop co za; 'Craig, Jason'
Cc: security-basics () lists securityfocus com
Subject: RE: Removing Local Admin Rights...


I'm working in a development environment. My developers need
to register
application DLLs most often. They also want to do ASP debugging, SQL
debugging, MTS debugging.

For these requirements I've to give my users local admin
access. But result
is that we get at least a system every week for repair.

What is the solution to this issue?

Regards
Faisal Masood



-----Original Message-----
From: Simon Taplin [mailto:simont () pop co za]
Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2004 8:37 PM
To: Craig, Jason
Cc: security-basics () lists securityfocus com
Subject: Re: Removing Local Admin Rights...

Most of the Adobe products don't run properly unless the User
is part of
the Power User Groups or higher for whatever reason. I remember that
InDesign 1.5 needed to install Japanese fonts if the user was part of
the Users group.

Simon

Craig, Jason wrote:

Jay,

None of our users have admin rights.  Most apps will run
fine.  We've run
into quirks with label printer software, and the usual
problems with Adobe
apps but we've been able to make things run without any
problems.  Most
things are well documented, and if they're not regmon and
filemon are your
friends.  We've been running this way for 3+ years and it
has made our
lives
much easier.

-j
-----Original Message-----
From: KEN MORRIS [mailto:KMORRIS () kpl org] Sent: Tuesday,
May 25, 2004
12:42 PM
To: Jay Lopez; security-basics () lists securityfocus com
Subject: RE: Removing Local Admin Rights...

Jay,
First thing I would do would be to check to see if there is
any non-M$
programs installed that are needed in the organization. IF
there are,
thoroughly test those programs under both O/S before
removing local admin
rights. Some software will run only under local admin user
accounts. I
have tried
here and found that in certain programs there is no work
around other than
local admin to allow users to run the software. Even
setting them as power
users does not work.
Regards,
Ken

-----Original Message-----
From: Jay Lopez [mailto:jlopez_si86 () hotmail com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2004 9:48 AM
To: security-basics () lists securityfocus com
Subject: Removing Local Admin Rights...

I currently work for an organization with approximately
25,000 Windows
XP/2000 desktops in an Active Directory (AD) environment.
Security from
an
OS and individual application component (i.e., Outlook
2003, MS Office,
IE,
etc.) perspective is being managed via group policy objects (GPO's).

Currently, we are pushing to remove local administrator
access rights to
individual machines to prevent users from randomly
installing unapproved
applications, prevent malware from being silently installed
within the
local
administrator context, etc.  Prior to our move to AD and GPO's, we
received
push-back on removing local admin rights for reasons such
as the logon
scripts would not work, etc.

By chance, have any of you implemented any of the
above--especially the
removal of local administrator rights?  If so, what support
issues did you
experience?  What impact did removing local admin rights have?

I'd like to provide as many pros and cons back to our team
based on your
feedback.

Thanks in advance,

Jay Lopez

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