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Re: Key Loggers


From: "Al Sez" <aer () efn org>
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 17:28:05 -0800

How about a search on all files that have been updated in the last, say,
five minutes?

Al

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Eric Hagen" <eric () sandpile net>
To: "Ivan Hernandez" <ivan.hernandez () globalsis com ar>
Cc: <s7726 () yahoo com>; "Security-Basics" <security-basics () securityfocus com>
Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2003 11:21 AM
Subject: Re: Key Loggers




I would first (in doubt) disconnect the machine from the network and
start analysing the traffic, then search for any changing file each
time you press a key !
also writing a strange word and searching for it can be useful sometimes
ivan hernandez


Well, I would say that if it's not sent directly to the network, it's
probably saved in an encrypted format.  There aren't too many keyloggers
that would save their files in plaintext.  The trick is that saving the
file in plaintext means that it comes up as a search result EVERY time
you shearch for text (because you have to type the search string in
order to search!!).

I've done a bit of research in this topic, but have yet to find anything
solid.  There are some anti-keylogger countermeasures, but they are
mostly based on signature detection.  There are some that monitor for
running processes watching the keyboard buffer, but the word is that
kernel hooks are almost impossible to detect in software.   Again, I'm
no expert, but this is what I"ve found while reading about the topic.
The only way I can think of detecting it is to both watch the network
traffic AND watch the I/O traffic to the disc.

Eric Hagen

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