RE: AW: security-basics Digest 18 Jun 2003 22:09:15 -0000 Issue 618

["David Gillett" <gillettdavid () fhda edu>]

  Sniffing requires collecting packets that aren't addressed to
you.
  Under *normal* circumstances, a switched network will only
deliver (a) broadcast traffic, and (b) traffic addressed to your
MAC address, to your physical port.  You cannot magically reach
out through the switch to collect packets sent to other ports.

  There are several techniques for getting a switch to send
traffic intended for other stations to your port, where your
sniffer software can grab it.  Some require management access
to the switch (and are used routinely by network admins).  Some
require nasty tricks such as ARP poisoning.  All are exceptions
to the "*normal*" in the previous paragraph.

David Gillett


> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Wallraff [mailto:wall0448 () ece umn edu]
> Sent: June 25, 2003 08:33
> To: Meidinger Christopher
> Cc: 'Hilal Hussein'; Security-Basics@Securityfocus. Com (E-Mail)
> Subject: Re: AW: security-basics Digest 18 Jun 2003 22:09:15
> -0000 Issue
> 618
>
>
> why is it harder to sniff over a switced network?  i understand it's
> becasue of the switch (natch), but what makes it more difficult?
> dave
>
>
>
> On Wed, 25 Jun 2003, Meidinger Christopher wrote:
>
> > Hello Hilal,
> >
> > Yes, there are many tools that will do that. dsniff,
> ettercap, ethereal and
> > MANY others will read your password as it goes by on the wire. It is
> > slightly more difficult on a switched network, but it can
> still be done.
> > You should not use telnet at all, use ssh (www.openssh.org)
> instead. The
> > windows client PuTTY is the most common choice to connect
> over ssh from
> > windows. As far as starting an ssh server on the firewall,
> you should be
> > able to do that in the same way that you started the telnet server.
> >
> > If you need more exact help, post to the list what type of
> firewall you are
> > using, and i am certain someone will help you get started.
> >
> > (Disclaimer: based on your question, you should [IMHO]
> definately read up a
> > bit on security before configuring a firewall)
> >
> > badenIT GmbH
> > System Support
> >
> > Chris Meidinger
> > Tullastrasse 70
> > 79108 Freiburg
> >
> >
> > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > Von: Hilal Hussein [mailto:hilalma () hotmail com]
> > Gesendet: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 10:08 AM
> > An: bugtraq () planetcobalt net; security-basics () securityfocus com
> > Betreff: Re: security-basics Digest 18 Jun 2003 22:09:15
> -0000 Issue 618
> > Hello All,
> >
> > i am not sure if i am asking the right question within the
> same subject,but
> > i am configuring the firewall throught the telnet
> connecting / from winxp
> > workstation.
> >
> > Is there any possibility for any internal user to use any
> tools that will
> > haijack my telnet password - password for the firewall
> too!, and what are
> > the measurements for securing the telnet session.
> >
> > with regards,
> > Hilal Hussein
> >
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