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Re: [WEB SECURITY] RE: Environment for testing WebApp Security Scanners
From: René Palige <R.Palige () gmx de>
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 16:46:48 +0200
Hi! I already stumbled across Stanford SecuriBench. There are 2 points troubling me: First, the SecuriBench is solely based on Java. That way it represents some kind of technological monoculture: Several people already mentioned scanners might deliver differing results depending on the technology on which they are used. That way SecuriBench might be _part of a complete TestSuite, but not the only one. Second, it has been publically available for quite some time. Scanner vendors might already have adopted their products accordingly. Benchmarking results would be rather useless if the flaws were not previously unknown for sure. Regards, René Palige On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 09:08:29 +0200, Enis Karaarslan <enis.karaarslan () ege edu tr> wrote:
Hello all, I am currently working on web/web application security issues in enterprise networks as an academic study. I think, the fundamental problem (especially in campus networks), there is usually no "network awareness". In enterprise networks, hundreds of different web servers and different web applications can be present, where usually nobody knows detailed info about web servers and applications running on them. Maybe most of you know, For security testing environment there is Stanford Securibench, which is a set of open source real-life programs to be used as a testing ground for static and dynamic security tools. Release .91a focuses on Web-based applications written in Java. http://suif.stanford.edu/~livshits/securibench/ There are many web/ web application security scanners. If anyone intrested in this subject and also for a joint work, s/he is always welcome. Enis Karaarslan Ege UniversityI added the WASC list, since many folks there are sensitive to this same subject.-----Original Message----- From: René Palige [mailto:rwp () gmx de] I?m currently working on my bachelor thesis which is about the development of a testsuite for different Web Application Security Scanners. My goal is to provide an environmentThis, I discovered, was very challenging. When I post the OWASP Tools v3, one section of it is going to be about my trials and tribulations, mistakes, misfires and general stupidity in trying to scientifically, systematically evaluate tools, which culminated in the HEWA2 book. No one has done a good job at this, most reviews are just plain crap (sorry, everyone, it's the truth; if there's a good review to defend please step up to the plate). I have been holding off releasing v3 (which is a narrative doc) until I can put it out for peer review before making a final, hard, PDF. (should I just post to the list and let everyone chime in?...I'm afraid to do this b/c some of it is _not_nice_) I hope someone will wikify the end product.I?m planning to use OWASPs WebGoat as some kind of groundwork.Not bad, but you will need more. Unless your thesis is "how effectively do webappscanner vendors code to detect issues in WebGoat?"Would it be best to focus on "real-life scenarios"?That's what I fell upon. It's a bit more realistic. You get no tautology from the scanner vendors. You get real use-case scenarios, and a story to tell.Or rather to cover as many aspects of a special class of vulnerabilities as possible?This, also, I tackled, and have an evolving-complexity XSS generator; I have a couple of types now and continue to add more as time permits, and it is use specifically to generate XSS-vuln pages of varying filter/encoding complexity. It really should be in SiteGenerator (owasp.net) but it helps me make sure I'm not misunderstanding something to force myself to write complicated mistakes out by hand. :) Maybe I'll just rip the scanner eval story and post just that. Very cool, we need some smart grad work here. Arian J. Evans
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