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RE: clear-text passwords in shell/perl scripts
From: "Scovetta, Michael V" <Michael.Scovetta () ca com>
Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 12:33:53 -0500
Jeff, An additional approach-- audit database logins for the ID specified in the shell script, and audit logins with the associated username on the box that the script lives. Depending on the DBMS and OS, you might be able to restrict logins to a specific time window. Security should be kept as simple as possible, so symmetric key encryption is a little silly if you're looking for a perfect solution. M Michael Scovetta Computer Associates Senior Application Developer -----Original Message----- From: Jeff Robertson [mailto:Jeff.Robertson () DigitalInsight com] Sent: Friday, March 18, 2005 1:19 PM To: Webappsec (E-mail) Subject: clear-text passwords in shell/perl scripts Say that a perl script needs access to a database, and access to this database requires a password. The script needs to run automatically with no human intervention, so it is not possible to prompt a user to enter the password at run time. This means that the password must either be in the script itself or in a file readable by the script. I have been asked what can be done to protect this password from falling into the wrong eyes. My recommendation is to tightly control read permissions to the script and/or the file that contains the password. Make the file owned by a special-purpose user who only exists to run this script, and chmod it to 600. That sort of thing. It has been suggested to encrypt the password. Since the script needs to get the clear text of the passwords in order to use them, this will need to be symmetric encryption and the script will need to have the key available, presumably stored in yet another file. As there would be no way to keep the key from being stolen other than to use the file permissions that were being relied on previously, you've just increased the complexity of the system without actually making it any more secure. This is bad. You'd be better off sticking with the simpler solution, since the security is the same either way. Can anyone either refute or provide further points in support of my stance on this? Jeff Robertson Manager of Web Application Security Digital Insight
Current thread:
- clear-text passwords in shell/perl scripts Jeff Robertson (Mar 20)
- Re: clear-text passwords in shell/perl scripts Joseph Miller (Mar 22)
- Re: clear-text passwords in shell/perl scripts Richard Moore (Mar 22)
- Re: clear-text passwords in shell/perl scripts Liran Cohen (Mar 22)
- Re: clear-text passwords in shell/perl scripts Paul Johnston (Mar 23)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- RE: clear-text passwords in shell/perl scripts Griffiths, Ian (Mar 22)
- RE: clear-text passwords in shell/perl scripts Ofer Shezaf (Mar 23)
- RE: clear-text passwords in shell/perl scripts M. Shirk (Mar 29)
- RE: clear-text passwords in shell/perl scripts Scovetta, Michael V (Mar 29)