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Re: Format Bugs in Windows Code?
From: Thomas Dullien <Dullien () GMX NET>
Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2000 15:03:18 +0200
I don't, offhand, but this made me think of a possible way to test for the possibility of format bugs in binary applications without source, provided they're linked dynamically with the MFC runtime. Interpose wsprintf et al. with ones that do a IsBadWritePointer on the format string. If the format string is writable, it's likely a variable, and possibly susceptible to user input.
This is _not_ a good idea. Assuming a program has been internationalized it will load format strings et al using LoadString() and then use these strings afterwards. Using your approach, you would get a _huge_ number of false positives. Secondly, as format string problems most frequently appear in logging function you would sometimes have to generate pretty exotic error conditions which are hard to trigger unless you read either the source or the disassembly. If you do that, you can save yourself the extra step of hooking functions and just use your debugger :) Concerning format string problems: When testing Netscape Enterprise Web- server for these problems, I found that the logging dunctions pass user- submitted data into a sprintf() function as format string. But the user- submitted data is properly filtered, meaning that every '%' is replaced by '%%' and so on. When I removed this filtering in the debugger, it was properly exploitable under Win32. (For those that didn't read the above I HAVE NOT FOUND A VULERABILITY IN NETSCAPE ENTERPRISE !) BTW, has anyone ever noticed that theoretically FormatMessage() can be used for a format string problem as well ? :) Cheers, Thomas Dullien Mandatory Military Service Sucks -- Sent through GMX FreeMail - http://www.gmx.net
Current thread:
- Format Bugs in Windows Code? Crispin Cowan (Sep 08)
- Re: Format Bugs in Windows Code? Iván Arce (Sep 12)
- Re: Format Bugs in Windows Code? Bluefish (P.Magnusson) (Sep 12)
- Re: Format Bugs in Windows Code? Crispin Cowan (Sep 12)
- Re: Format Bugs in Windows Code? Bluefish (P.Magnusson) (Sep 12)
- Re: Format Bugs in Windows Code? Pavel Kankovsky (Sep 12)
- Re: Format Bugs in Windows Code? Bluefish (P.Magnusson) (Sep 13)
- Re: Format Bugs in Windows Code? Daniel Jacobowitz (Sep 12)
- Re: Format Bugs in Windows Code? Crispin Cowan (Sep 12)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- Re: Format Bugs in Windows Code? Michael Wojcik (Sep 12)
- Re: Format Bugs in Windows Code? Thomas Dullien (Sep 12)
- Re: Format Bugs in Windows Code? Scott Hardy (Sep 12)
- Re: Format Bugs in Windows Code? Michael Wojcik (Sep 12)