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Re: ICQ >= 99* + CC Data
From: Flynnh () MONT DISA MIL (Flynn, Harold M. III)
Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 15:25:18 -0000
I'm curious as to whether or not the Java client does the same thing. Wonder if that code is open sourced or not? Time to pick it apart tonite. Hal
-----Original Message----- From: Sachs, Marcus [SMTP:sachsm () JTFCND IA MIL] Sent: Monday, January 17, 2000 8:37 AM To: VULN-DEV () SECURITYFOCUS COM Subject: Re: ICQ >= 99* + CC Data Maybe it was going after a Microsoft Wallet file? ms -----Original Message----- From: Vanja Hrustic [ <mailto:vanja () relaygroup com>] Sent: Monday, January 17, 2000 1:15 AM To: VULN-DEV () SECURITYFOCUS COM Subject: Re: ICQ >= 99* + CC Data Ken Williams wrote:I agree that it sounds very unlikely, but one of the reports came from arespected security software developer (who is now MIA, unavailable).Here is the only additional info I have: - All reports involved ICQ for Windows 95/98/NT4 - Attempts to snag Credit Card data only noticed/picked up by firewalland/or proxy when ICQ was initially started for the first time after ICQ client installation Could someone clarify what exactly means 'snag Credit Card data'? Looking for a known file on a hard drive? Stealing cookies? Intercepting traffic? Recording keystrokes? Or ... ? It'd be interesting to know if there is a way that someone (not talking about ICQ) is able to *locate* the credit card information on a hard disk (yes, we can make many theories, but does anybody actually know for sure that cc data is located somewhere on the hard disk, for whatever reason?) How could it send data to Mirabilis? Basically, if your firewall lets ICQ traffic through - it will most likely be at port 4000. If cc data is sent though port 4000, it shouldn't be too hard to distinguish between 'real' ICQ traffic, and "something else". If it's destined to some other port (or even some other type of 'traffic') - I am pretty sure that many people would notice that. Just take a look at what kinds of questions (related to 'strange traffic') are posted on Firewalls/FW-Wizards/Incidents lists. Someone would ask about traffic to mirabilis.com, for sure... :) Of course, there is always a possibility that some disgruntled employee inserted a piece of code in order to get his/her "revenge" (for whatever reason). Or they have been 'r00t3d' ;) -- Vanja Hrustic The Relay Group <http://relaygroup.com> Technology Ahead of Time
Current thread:
- Re: ICQ >= 99* + CC Data Ken Williams (Jan 17)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- Re: ICQ >= 99* + CC Data Sachs, Marcus (Jan 17)
- Re: ICQ >= 99* + CC Data Jon Hadley (Jan 17)
- Re: ICQ >= 99* + CC Data Blue Boar (Jan 17)
- Re: ICQ >= 99* + CC Data Mikael Olsson (Jan 18)
- R: Re: ICQ >= 99* + CC Data Raistlin (Jan 19)
- Re: ICQ >= 99* + CC Data Taavet Hinrikus (Jan 20)
- Re: R: Re: ICQ >= 99* + CC Data C. C. Camp (Jan 20)
- Overflows due to unexpected casts Mixter (Jan 20)
- Re: ICQ >= 99* + CC Data Blue Boar (Jan 17)
- Re: ICQ >= 99* + CC Data Jon Hadley (Jan 18)
- Re: ICQ >= 99* + CC Data Flynn, Harold M. III (Jan 18)