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Re: Network Variables


From: beenph <beenph () gmail com>
Date: Thu, 2 May 2013 13:32:45 -0400

This might help you Seth

http://biot.com/capstats/bpf.html



On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 1:23 PM, Seth Dunn <seth () d2ms com> wrote:
So now my question comes, since you were wondering about the rule I was
using.
This is my rule::
not net 10.10.0.0/24 and dst host 10.75.45.1 && dst port 80 or not net
10.30.0.0/24 and dst host 10.75.45.1 && dst port 80

By my understanding, and my desire to see happen is this.
Traffic from the network 10.10.0.0/24 going to http at 10.75.45.1 should
be ignored.
Also, traffic from the network 10.30.0.0/24 going to http at 10.75.45.1
should be ignored.
All other traffic is still monitored.

Is this correct, base on the rule above, or should it be worded another
way?

-----Original Message-----
From: Castle, Shane [mailto:scastle () bouldercounty org]
Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2013 11:34 AM
To: Seth Dunn; 'James Lay'; 'Snort'
Subject: RE: [Snort-users] Network Variables

Speaking of Windows - it's possible that the Windows version of Snort
does not correctly read a Windows text file, which is what the BPF file
is, and that it expects lines to end with only LF (\n) rather than CR-LF
(\n\r) - the latter is the Windows style. (This seems farfetched now
that I'm rereading this before sending it, since the snort.conf will
have to be processed correctly, but hey, maybe they didn't update the
BPF reading section.)

The old Wordpad used to let you save files in Unix line-end style rather
than Windows, but I don't see that capability any more. You can get
dos2unix from SourceForge that will take care of the conversion, if
that's required.

None of the Snort docs admit to allowing comment lines in the BPF
expression file - I suspect it is parsed the same way that it would be
if it were on the command line, in which a comment would not make sense.
Yes, for a filter expression file, allowing comments does make sense -
maybe we could get the Snort developers to permit that?

It'd be nice for a Snort developer or innards whiz to comment on this
thread. He might shrug and say "run it in Linux, don't use Windows" but
still - it's no fun programming in the dark.

--
Shane Castle
Data Security Mgr, Boulder County IT


-----Original Message-----
From: Seth Dunn [mailto:seth () d2ms com]
Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2013 09:08
To: James Lay; Snort
Subject: Re: [Snort-users] Network Variables

Yeah, it is a windows thing.....gotta love it. :D

-----Original Message-----
From: James Lay [mailto:jlay () slave-tothe-box net]
Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2013 11:03 AM
To: Snort
Subject: Re: [Snort-users] Network Variables

Yea that was a single quote ;)  Guessing it's a windows-ism, but glad
it's working now :)

James

On 2013-05-02 09:01, Seth Dunn wrote:
If I do quotes " vs. apostrophe '
That seems to work on the command line

-----Original Message-----
From: Castle, Shane [mailto:scastle () bouldercounty org]
Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2013 10:51 AM
To: Seth Dunn; 'James Lay'; 'Snort'
Subject: RE: [Snort-users] Network Variables

I dunno - I can parse that BPF expression several different ways, and
the parsing results in different capture characteristics.

Does the first "not" apply to just "net 10.10.0.0/24" or to the expr
"net 10.10.0.0/24 and dst host 10.75.45.1 && dst port 80"? (For
instance.) This depends on the precedence and order of how Snort
parses the string. I can find no doc on this in the Snort manpage, the

tcpdump manpage, or the Snort manual. I suggest using parentheses for
grouping so that your intent is clear.

--
Shane Castle
Data Security Mgr, Boulder County IT

-----Original Message-----
From: Seth Dunn [mailto:seth () d2ms com]
Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2013 08:09
To: James Lay; Snort
Subject: Re: [Snort-users] Network Variables

Also of note.
It seems that if snort starts with a bpf file configured....then for
whatever reason, all traffic is no longer monitored, even though
snort
has started.
So while this rule::
not net 10.10.0.0/24 and dst host 10.75.45.1 && dst port 80 or not
net
10.30.0.0/24 and dst host 10.75.45.1 && dst port 80

is pretty specific.....
I have another rule set in my local.rules file that should alert on
any
FTP attempt to IP 10.76.65.1....and if the bpf file is configured for
snort, then the attempt is not alerted by snort.
If I remove the bpf file from being used, then any FTP attempt is
again
alerted.



From: James Lay [mailto:jlay () slave-tothe-box net]
Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2013 8:10 AM
To: Snort
Subject: Re: [Snort-users] Network Variables



Quotation marks may be needed...try appending via command line as
well.



James



On May 2, 2013, at 5:50 AM, Seth Dunn <seth () d2ms com> wrote:





What is DAQ?  I have seen that, but have no idea what that is.

As far as my bpf file goes, if it is like this::



#not net 10.10.0.0/24 and not net 10.30.0.0/24

not net 10.10.0.0/24 and dst host 10.75.45.1 && dst port 80 or not
net
10.30.0.0/24 and dst host 10.75.45.1 && dst port 80


It will fail with::

Reading filter from bpf file: D:\Snort\etc\ignore2.bpf

ERROR: short read D:\Snort\etc\ignore2.bpf (169 != 170)

Fatal Error, Quitting..



If I remove the commented line, then snort starts fine.
If I try to have multiple lines in the file, (all being rules, no
comments) the it will fail with a similar error as above.
I have never seen a DAQ error.



From: Russ Combs [mailto:rcombs () sourcefire com]
Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2013 12:08 AM
To: waldo kitty
Cc: snort-users () lists sourceforge net
Subject: Re: [Snort-users] Network Variables



Snort does allow comments in the BPF file, starting with # to end of
line.  If there is a syntax error, you should see something like:



ERROR: Can't set DAQ BPF filter to '

...

' (pcap_daq_set_filter: pcap_compile: syntax error)!

Fatal Error, Quitting..



What DAQ are you using?  Please send the BPF file that fails and the
error that you get.



On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 10:07 PM, waldo kitty
<wkitty42 () windstream net>
wrote:

On 5/1/2013 13:09, Seth Dunn wrote:
But any ideas why snort fails to start if I add in a '#' to comment
a
line??

i have no clue but it sounds like a coding error not allowing comment
lines i the BPF file... only joel or one of the snort dev guys can
tell
us that... or possibly a code diver who can root around in the snort
code ;)


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