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Re: Pattern Matching
From: Rayne <hjazz6 () ymail com>
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 19:22:42 -0700 (PDT)
Hi, 1) So AC is run for the fast pattern matcher to narrow down potential rules, then Boyer-Moore is run for the actual content matching. If there are no content modifiers, each pattern in the potential rule should be matched from the beginning of the payload, right? Also, if I only have one content option per rule, Boyer-Moore will not be employed? And what do you mean by "if the content (or pcre) is relative"? 2) I'm thinking of the situation where the longer pattern "CDEFG" is only significant if the shorter pattern "AB" is found, that is, CDEFG means nothing when it appears in the payload alone. Also, there is the speed consideration. For example, the payload may contain CDEFG but not AB. Because CDEFG is the longer pattern, it will be put in the fast pattern matcher and trigger a match. If AB is put together with CDEFG under the same rule, I would have wasted time trying to find AB in the payload. If I could have the rule for matching CDEFG trigger only when AB is found, I could have saved that time. 5) You said that stream5 "will flush the segments it has gathered, reassembling into a pseudo-packet and sending to the preprocessors and detection engine (only if timeout is reached)". This happens even if the segments it gathered are incomplete when timeout occured? Thank you. Regards, Rayne --- On Thu, 10/16/08, Todd Wease <twease () sourcefire com> wrote: From: Todd Wease <twease () sourcefire com> Subject: Re: [Snort-users] Pattern Matching To: hjazz6 () ymail com Cc: snort-users () lists sourceforge net Date: Thursday, October 16, 2008, 12:49 PM Hi Rayne, Answers inline... Rayne wrote:
Hi all, I have a few questions regarding the pattern matching aspect of Snort. 1) If I have the following rule option (content:"ABC", content:"DEFGH"), am I right to say that the string
"DEFGH" will be
compared first to see if there is a match, and if there is, then
"ABC"
is compared, because "DEFGH" is the longer string?
The fast pattern matcher (ac-bnfa, lowmem, etc.) is used to find the rules that have a chance at matching. Only the longest content of each rule is put in the pattern matcher. After the pattern matcher is compiled, each match state points to a tree of rule options with each path in the tree from root to leaf containing the rule options for a unique rule (besides the descriptive options such as msg, sid, etc.). Note that a match state can contain more than one pattern, e.g. "ABCD", "BCD", "CD". A tree is used because many rule options are present in the same place in different rules and using a tree eliminates the need to evaluate these options more than once. Each path in the tree will contain a content rule option containing one of the patterns in the match state. The contents are evaluated again using boyer-moore because of the usual modifiers to the content indicating the relativity, depth and case. So in your rule above, the content "DEFGH" will be put in the fast pattern matcher. If that content is found in the payload, a tree will be traversed (essentially a linked list here), starting with content:"ABC". That content will be evaluated using boyer-moore. If that succeeds, then content:"DEFGH" will be evaluated using boyer-moore. Note that the results of each rule option evaluated (each node in the tree) get cached for each packet so if "DEFGH" occurs multiple times in the payload, the previous results for the rule options will be used with the caveat that if the content (or pcre) is relative, it will need to be evaluated again.
2) Is it possible to have one rule activate another rule within the same packet, i.e. when a content match with "AB" is found, it
will
trigger another rule that consists of a content match with a longer string, e.g. "CDEFG". This would be something similar to activate/dynamic, except from what I understand, dynamic only logs a certain number of subsequent packets that match the first rule after being activated, which is not exactly what I want to do. If this is possible, does the second content match start from the beginning of the payload, or from where "AB" was matched?
Not sure why you wouldn't put these contents in the same rule. Can you give an example of a couple of rules?
3) Say I have 5 rules each with one content match. All the rule headers are the same, i.e. the 5 OTNs are under the same RTN, and they contain only the content match. Using the AC search method, does Snort build just one DFA that contains all 5 strings so each packet can be searched through only once for all 5 strings at a time, or is a DFA built for every OTN/string, resulting in searching through each packet 5 times? What if one of the rules has 3 content matches while the other 4 has only one content match each. How is the DFA built then?
All contents are searched for simultaneously in one state machine. Only the longest content in a rule is used in the state machine.
4) Does the pattern matching algorithm return the position within the payload where the pattern is found? For example, if I'm matching for the string "GET" and the payload is "kas sdfGETjkdn",
will I get
something like "Pattern "GET" matched at position 8"?
Also, in
acsmx.c, it is mentioned that the AC algorithm "finds all occurrences of all patterns within a body of text". If there are, say, 5 occurences of a pattern string, do I get one alert/log per occurence, one alert/log per pattern matched (if there are multiple content strings in the rule option) or one alert/log per rule (regardless of the number of content strings in the rule option)?
The index or position in the payload where the pattern matched is not used for evaluating rules. Generally, it's not important since content modifiers specify where in the payload a content should be. As I said above, the fast pattern matcher is just a way to pick out a much smaller subset of rules to evaluate. Snort alerts per rule matched, not per pattern matched.
5) How long does Snort hold fragments for reassembly in Frag3 and Stream5 before discarding the packets if they are incomplete?
For frag3, fragments are discarded if a timeout is reached (default of 60 seconds). frag3 does not constantly go through the current fragment trackers looking for timed out ones (a performance hit) but makes this decision if it gets a fragment for one of the trackers. If the memory cap is reached in trying to create a new tracker, it will purge the least recently used trackers to get enough memory to create the new one. stream5 does essentially the same thing, but will flush the segments it has gathered, reassembling into a pseudo-packet and sending to the preprocessors and detection engine (only if timeout is reached, not memcap).
Thank you. Regards, Rayne
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