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Re: Aanval Series 2 v2.3 Just Released
From: "Jeff Dell" <jdell () activeworx com>
Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2006 23:35:20 -0500
Actually I am not missing your point at all. I completely agree with you that Remote Assessment is using the list to market and the Snort users list should not be used in this fashion. But you said I have done this as well showing a "great example" of how I did this. And now you say that "great example" was actually legitimate use of the list. Next time get your facts strait before you make false accusations about someone in a public forum. Cheers, Jeff
-----Original Message----- From: snort-users-bounces () lists sourceforge net [mailto:snort-users-bounces () lists sourceforge net] On Behalf Of Eric Hines Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 10:31 PM To: Jeff Dell Cc: administration () remoteassessment com; snort-users () lists sourceforge net Subject: Re: [Snort-users] Aanval Series 2 v2.3 Just Released -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 What part do you or "Loyal" not understand about my admission to doing it in the past as well? And I do find it legitimate to respond to a person's post asking for Snort management consoles, whether its you, me, or RA. But Remote Assessment is actually posting holiday special pricing to this list with that are not replies -- I mean come on. .. and yet you still completely missed my point. Best Regards, Eric Hines, GCIA, CISSP CEO, President Applied Watch Technologies, LLC 1095 Pingree Road Suite 221 Crystal Lake, IL 60014 Toll Free: (877) 262-7593 Fax: (847) 854-5106 Cell: (847) 456-6785 Web: www.appliedwatch.com Jeff Dell wrote:Eric, You said: "If the Snort management product is completely free -- atrue open sourceproduct and is not sold or offered as a commercial solution, then I think they should have the right to announce to this list. However, products such as Aanval and ActiveWorx shouldn't (I've seenJeff Dell dothe same thing in the past)." Then you give an example in another email that you claim isa great exampleon how I did this. Lets take a look at the full originalemail without thebottom half removed like you posted[1]. As you can see Idid nothing morethen answer the person's request. I did not post anannouncement like youclaim. What is really interesting about the email you claimI am doingmarketing with... if you scroll down on that same link youwill see yourreply to that same email with information about yourproduct. Hmmm.. Maybethat wasn't such a good example? I have however sent many emails over the last 6 yearsannouncing the releaseof our completely free product that is not sold or offeredas a commercialsolution [2]. Cheers, Jeff [1] http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=15364007 [2] http://www.activeworx.org/programs/idspm/-----Original Message----- From: Eric Hines [mailto:eric.hines () appliedwatch com] Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 9:05 PM To: Jeff Dell Cc: snort-users () lists sourceforge net; administration () remoteassessment com Subject: Re: [Snort-users] Aanval Series 2 v2.3 Just ReleasedJeff, My statement was companies that have a free version and a commercial version of their solution. With you: IDS Policy Manager and your commercial product Activeworx Security Center. My point is, I can see abuse of this list by companies who make a stripped down version of their product for free and thenuse this listto "announce" that free version of their commercialsolutions (RemoteAssessment/Aanval). They click on the site to check outthis strippeddown version only to come upon the commercial product. I just think companies who have free stripped down versions of their product they sell shouldn't be allowed to market it on this list. Its ingenious I think -- limit some capabilities of your product and call it a free version in order to be able to market your company on this mailing list. Alright, yeah, we did it once :) I suppose I'm just tired of seeing Remote Assessments constant posts to this list for Aanval. The Halloween sale was the "straw that broke the camel's back" with me. Here is a post by you on April 10th which is a great example of what I'm talking about. Anyway, I don't want this to turn in to aflame war soI'll drop it. I said my piece. --- snip --- -------- Original Message -------- Subject: RE: [Snort-users] Snort Front-ends Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 18:02:36 -0400 From: Jeff Dell <jdell () activeworx com> To: 'Arif Basha' <arif.basha () janes com>, 'Snort Mailing Listehehe' <snort-users () lists sourceforge net> Activeworx has a few products that are free and commercial. Free solutions: IDS Policy Manager - Snort Rules manager that runs onWindows and willsupport sensors running on Microsoft and any OS that supports SSH. Website: http://www.activeworx.org Honeynet Security Console - Snort event manager that runson Windows.Website: http://www.activeworx.org Commercial: Activeworx Security Center - Affordable commercial Snort event manager/SIM that can centralize Snort sensors/databases, schedule reports, correlate against vulnerabilities and events, interactive graphs, event relationship diagrams, plus a lot more. Website: http://www.activeworx.com Cheers, Jeff ---- Best Regards, Eric Hines, GCIA, CISSP CEO, President Applied Watch Technologies, LLC 1095 Pingree Road Suite 221 Crystal Lake, IL 60014 Toll Free: (877) 262-7593 Fax: (847) 854-5106 Cell: (847) 456-6785 Web: www.appliedwatch.com Jeff Dell wrote:If the Snort management product is completely free -- a true open source product and is not sold or offered as a commercialsolution, then Ithink they should have the right to announce to thislist. However,products such as Aanval and ActiveWorx shouldn't (I've seen Jeff Dell do the same thing in the past).I would have to completely disagree with you. I have NEVERsent an emailabout our commercial software. We have however sent manyemails over theyears about our FREE product IDS Policy Manager. We havenever collected adime for this software and have even turned away people whowanted to donatemoney to help with development. We don't have a commercialversion of theproduct and we never will. We develop this product to giveback to thecommunity. Heck we even offer free support... So I wouldlove to see theemail where you claim I am marketing a commercial product. Cheers, Jeff-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFSrfk1va6QYTV0EMRAreOAKCaeQnvubC5FuRR7xKlLWYB7a9ToQCeKGWp CHAh/6QtWpJaWZ4q7dgN/VI= =bJL6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -------------------------------------------------------------- ----------- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? 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- Re: Aanval Series 2 v2.3 Just Released Eric Hines (Nov 02)
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- Re: Aanval Series 2 v2.3 Just Released Administration (Nov 02)
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- Re: Aanval Series 2 v2.3 Just Released Jeff Dell (Nov 02)
- Re: Aanval Series 2 v2.3 Just Released Alan Shimel (Nov 02)
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