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Re: Hub recommendations


From: Rich Adamson <radamson () routers com>
Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2004 11:07:32 -0600

I have 3 separate SPAN ports on Cisco switches feeding traffic to a
soho Netgear 8 port hub, which I then connect to my IDS as well as
other network analysis boxes.  I'm having a problem where one of my
SPAN ports gets errDisabled because of too many collisions coming back
from the hub.  This isn't a big surprise because the hub is now seeing
an average of 5000 packets per sec.

Dump the hub approach and go get another cisco switch. Even an old 
Cisco 2924XML has the capability of multiple port mirrors; use all 
the time.

And before the anti-cisco bigots jump in, one still needs to consider
the volume of traffic expected through the mirror/span as it is not that
hard to generate more traffic then what the sniffing port can handle.
E.g., if you mirror a 100 meg full duplex port to another 100 meg port
(where snort resides as an example), that 100 meg full duplex mirrored
port is fully capable of trying to jam 200 meg of data down that snort 
port (which obviously can't handle it, dropping packets); do that with
three mirrored ports and you're approaching 600 meg being jammed down
the throat of a 100 meg snort port.

One really needs to think in terms of what the maximum instantanous
traffic might be (knowing full well that layer-2 switches have only very
minimum buffers), regardless of which company manufacturered the switch.

As a side note, placing a hub in the middle of a high volume ethernet
link will create a significant preformance hit. Lots of well documented
studies (from the last 15 years) will tell you that a half-duplex (hub)
port is limited to about 25% utilitization before performance is truly
impacted, whereas full duplex switch ports are truly capable of operating
at 95+% utilization before performance becomes an issue.

Rich




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