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Re: Administrativia: No advertising please
From: "M. Jamil" <mjamil650 () hotmail com>
Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 23:08:03 +0000
I don't really see a need for such a spectacle, nor a long winded rant from Martin Roesch on the matter. There isn't really a need for all of you to jump down the sales lady's throat for an accidental CC that she apologized for. On a side note, I've taken a look at what they are doing over there and it all looks pretty cool.. I might even consider it over Sourcefire and their overpriced appliances.
Frank Knobbe, you coffee-shop revolutionary, stop feeding your ego trying to be a man by talking down to others behind a computer screen.
p.s.If Martin Roesch and the others are so upset about the accidental CC of the sales email, why don't you configure your list software to disallow CCs or start moderating?
peace -----Original Message----- From: Martin Roesch [mailto:roesch () sourcefire com] Sent: Friday, May 14, 2004 1:42 PM To: snort-users () lists sourceforge net Subject: Re: [Snort-users] Administrativia: No advertising please On May 14, 2004, at 12:44 AM, Eric Hines wrote:
Come on guys, it's a part of the game.
Not here it isn't. Snort users don't want to "play the game" and there's no reason they should have to, if we're playing a game on this mailing list I'm the guy making the rules and you're going to play by them or you're going to lose your access to this list. If you want to do marketing, do it on your own nickel, this is not an opt-in list for whatever spamvertising you care to fire at people, and that goes for all the other vendors on this list. I and the rest of the Sourcefire team could have been posting replies to most every message on this list expounding upon the wonders of our products and technologies for the last three and a half years, we don't do that because it detracts from the level of discussion and turns this into a forum that's less useful for solving the day to day problems of Snort users than what we have today. I don't answer questions citing Sourcefire solutions unless people are specifically asking about them, I expect the same of all the other vendors here as well. Can you imagine how bad this list would be if we had every commercial organization that's sell Snort or services around Snort blasting this list continuously with ads about whatever it is they're doing? If that were to happen we may as well close down the list and be done with it, the value of this forum would quickly go to zero.
I understood that these people had bills to pay, these sales people, most of them at least, didn't make base salaries and lived off commission, who was I to discourage them
by
ranting back and asking how they got my contact information; frankly, who cares?
People on this list care, this list is not here as an advertising services for companies to do prospecting, if we were doing that then the owners of this list would be selling access to the member list and we're not doing that. Guys with quotas have marketing departments to help them sell, it's not the responsibility of the people of this list to validate your business model.
In short, businesses have a product to sell.
This is the same excuse that spammers use, that's not acceptable for this forum. Once more, keep unsolicited advertising off this list and please don't use it as a prospecting list either. If people ask about your product then you can feel free to answer, otherwise contribute to the community or don't say anything. -- Martin Roesch - Founder/CTO, Sourcefire Inc. - (410)290-1616Sourcefire: Intelligent Security Monitoring roesch () sourcefire com - http://www.sourcefire.com
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- FW: Administrativia: No advertising please Eric Hines (May 13)
- Re: FW: Administrativia: No advertising please Frank Knobbe (May 13)
- Re: FW: Administrativia: No advertising please Frank Knobbe (May 13)
- Re: Administrativia: No advertising please Martin Roesch (May 14)
- Re: FW: Administrativia: No advertising please James Riden (May 14)
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- Re: Administrativia: No advertising please M. Jamil (May 14)
- Re: Administrativia: No advertising please Martin Roesch (May 14)
- RE: Administrativia: No advertising please Kreimendahl, Chad J (May 14)