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RE: Fallacies and lies.
From: "Bob Walder" <bwalder () spamcop net>
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 10:49:47 +0100
Gartner like to keep trotting this one out to garner some publicity - at our recent NetEvents seminar in Cannes the highlight of the event was the discussion panel entitled "IDS is Dead", on which we included IDS vendors, IPS vendors and a Gartner representative. Even he admitted that the statements in their recent press release were "a little strong" - I put it to him that they were actually complete bollocks - the truth probably lies somewhere in-between. Note in this latest piece of drivel that they maintain that the firewall can do all its firewall business plus some intrusion detection and prevention, and all at wire speeds. Well, show me a firewall that can do all of that at Gigabit speeds and I will eat my hat - most Gigabit firewalls cannot even firewall at wire speeds, never mind anything else. Note also that they maintain that "mature products will appear in 2005" - so what are we supposed to do until then? I think IDS is safe for now.... I am not a vendor of IDS/IPS product - I have no connection with any such vendors (other than in my capacity as an independent tester of such products) and so I have no real axe to grind here - but it really ticks me off that Gartner can keep on coming out with crap like this and not only getting away with it, but actually getting some mugs to pay for it! Regards, Bob Walder Director The NSS Group www.nss.co.uk ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---------- This message is intended for the addressee only and may contain information that may be of a privileged or confidential nature. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender and destroy the message immediately. Unauthorised use or reproduction of this message is strictly prohibited.
-----Original Message----- From: snort-users-admin () lists sourceforge net [mailto:snort-users-admin () lists sourceforge net] On Behalf Of Mark Penny Sent: 05 November 2003 10:07 To: snort-users () lists sourceforge net Subject: [Snort-users] Fallacies and lies. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hello, Has anyone else seen this:
http://www.csoonline.com/analyst/report1660.html There appears to be little basis in fact with this report. Our favourite pig will quite happily perform at network speeds and in inline mode. Regards, Mark. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Note: This signature can be verified at https://www.hushtools.com/verify Version: Hush 2.3 wkYEARECAAYFAj+ovbgACgkQprlSYjpr01LOnQCgn8Rgozmp4SUNw5aVAi9gIXVNTC8A nAu8RCOcAattkCWBSyNVssZjPUB5 =IsGO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- Concerned about your privacy? Follow this link to get FREE encrypted email: https://www.hushmail.com/?l=2 Free, ultra-private instant messaging with Hush Messenger https://www.hushmail.com/services.php?subloc=messenger&l=434 Promote security and make money with the Hushmail Affiliate Program: https://www.hushmail.com/about.php?subloc=affiliate&l=427 ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SF.net Giveback Program. Does SourceForge.net help you be more productive? Does it help you create better code? SHARE THE LOVE, and help us help YOU! Click Here: http://sourceforge.net/donate/ _______________________________________________ Snort-users mailing list Snort-users () lists sourceforge net Go to this URL to change user options or unsubscribe: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/snort-users Snort-users list archive: http://www.geocrawler.com/redir-sf.php3?list=snort-users ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SF.net Giveback Program. Does SourceForge.net help you be more productive? Does it help you create better code? SHARE THE LOVE, and help us help YOU! Click Here: http://sourceforge.net/donate/ _______________________________________________ Snort-users mailing list Snort-users () lists sourceforge net Go to this URL to change user options or unsubscribe: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/snort-users Snort-users list archive: http://www.geocrawler.com/redir-sf.php3?list=snort-users
Current thread:
- Fallacies and lies. Mark Penny (Nov 05)
- Re: Fallacies and lies. Edin Dizdarevic (Nov 05)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- RE: Fallacies and lies. Bob Walder (Nov 05)
- RE: Fallacies and lies. Rich Adamson (Nov 05)
- RE: Fallacies and lies. Bob Walder (Nov 05)
- Re: Fallacies and lies. Jason Haar (Nov 05)
- RE: Fallacies and lies. Bob Walder (Nov 06)
- Re: Fallacies and lies. Marc Quibell (Nov 06)