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Economics of Software Vulnerabilities


From: mshines at purdue.edu (Michael S Hines)
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 08:55:55 -0400

I'm not sure what your sources are but from what I'm hearing and reading the
problem is that there are many missing drivers for what have become standard
peripherals that people are used to - and some of the vendors are reluctant
to develop new drivers (the driver technology changed in Vista - so all
drivers have to be reworked).

MP3 players, ePhones, PDA's, etc. have become standard components in many
places...  and they don't work with Vista - yet (if ever).

It's the feature thing.... not that users are shunning security.

And, at least to me, it is an indication that M$ did not understand the
marketplace or rushed the (incomplete) product to market.  There's more than
one way to foul up a new product launch.

IMHO of course.

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Michael S Hines
mshines at purdue.edu
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On Behalf Of Crispin Cowan
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2007 4:00 PM
To: Gary McGraw
Cc: Ed Reed; sc-l at securecoding.org
Subject: Re: [SC-L] Economics of Software Vulnerabilities

Gary McGraw wrote:
I'm not sure vista is bombing because of good quality.   That certainly
would be ironic.

Word on the "way down in the guts" street is that vista is too many things
cobbled together into one big kinda functioning mess.
I.e. it is mis-featured, and lacks on some integration. This is a variation
on not having desired features. And there certainly are big features in
Vista that were supposed to be there but aren't (most of user-land being
managed code, relational file system).

It is also infamously late.

So if the resources that were put into the code quality in Vista had instead
been put into features and ship-date, would it do better in the marketplace?

Sure, that's heretical :) but it just might be true :(

Crispin, now believes that users are fundamentally what holds back security

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Crispin Cowan, Ph.D.               http://crispincowan.com/~crispin/
Director of Software Engineering   http://novell.com
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