"Bumper sticker" definition of secure software

[thesp0nge at gmail.com (Paolo Perego)]

Hi list, I'll introduce myself with a claim:
"Software is like Titanic, pleople claim it was unsinkable. Securing is
providing it power steering"

thesp0nge

On 7/18/06, Gadi Evron <ge at linuxbox.org> wrote:
> On Mon, 17 Jul 2006, Rajeev Gopalakrishna wrote:
> > Reliability is concerned only with accidental failures while security
> has
> > to consider malicious attacks as well. The difference is in the intent
> of
> > the software user: benign or malicious.
> >
> > And for a bumper sticker, here is one for the pessimists:
> >
> > "Secure Software is a Myth"
> >
> > and another version for the skeptics:
> >
> > "Is Secure Software a Myth?"
> >
> > :)
>
> Again, this would speak only to a very small percentage of the
> population. You me, maybe 10K people around the world if we are generous.
>
> > -rajeev
> >
> >
> > On Mon, 17 Jul 2006, Peter G. Neumann wrote:
> >
> > > You suggest:
> > >
> > >   Secure software is software that remains dependable despite efforts
> to
> > >   compromise its dependability.
> > >
> > > You need a bigger-picture view that encompasses trustworthiness
> > > and assurance.
> > >
> > > "Dependable systems are systems that remain dependable despite
> > > would-be compromises to their dependability."
> > >
> > > "Trustworthy systems are systems that are worthy of being trusted
> > > to satisfy their requirements (for security, reliability,
> survivability,
> > > safety, or whatever)."
> > >
> > > Security is generally too narrow by itself, because a system that is
> > > not reliable is not likely to be secure, especially when in
> > > unreliability mode!
> > >
> > > The principle of Keep It Simple is inherently unworkable with respect
> to
> > > security.  Security is inherently complex.  Trustworthiness is broader
> and
> > > even more complex.  But if you don't think about trustworthiness more
> > > broadly, what you get is not likely to be very secure.
> > >
> > > Forget the bumper sticker approach.
> > >
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