SpamArrest asks another author of true but critical info for takedown [sp]

[Declan McCullagh <declan () well com>]

Thanks, everyone, for the voluminous replies. I'll collate them shortly 
and send them out, along with a statement of list policy in this regard.

Previous Politech message:
http://www.politechbot.com/2005/05/02/spamarrest-wants-critical/

-Declan

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: Spam Arrest
Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 21:57:25 -0400
From: Carl Bussjaeger <carl // bussjaeger // org>
To: declan () well com

Declan,

Yes, Spam Arrest is attempting to edit reality, to pretend that they 
never spied upon their customers and their customers' correspondents to 
compile a spam list. Here is my reply to their request that I censor a 
critical article.

If you forward this, please spam-sanitize my email address. Thanks.

   Carl Bussjaeger
        http://www.Bussjaeger.org

FREE HUNTER!
http://www.NorthAmericanSamizdat.com/

BOYCOTT VERIZON COMMUNICATIONS
http://www.NorthAmericanSamizdat.com/boycott.html

---------SA correspondence follows---------

Cartmell,

In a word: No.

In explanation: The URL you've referenced is a mirror on a server to 
which I have no access. The reason it was mirrored was to ensure the 
availability of some of my old articles, even when my own server(s) 
changed. Someone thinks that article is worth preserving, I suppose, 
since it is still up.

I think it is worth preserving as well, which is why I keep an updated 
version on my own site. I believe www.archive.org has it permanently 
archived as well. So it's a little late to be retroactively editing 
reality: Spam Arrest _did_ commit an egregious offense, lied about it, 
then when caught out made a weaselly "apology" which victims had to 
actively search for on the web (ie- the only way to know you'd almost 
"apologized" was to know you'd almost "apologized;" quite circular and 
convenient for SA).

And judging by the emails I still get from people who consider 
themselves ongoing victims of your so-called service, there is still 
something very wrong with Spam Arrest. The more warnings out on the Net, 
the better.


   Carl Bussjaeger
        http://www.Bussjaeger.org

FREE HUNTER!
http://www.NorthAmericanSamizdat.com/

BOYCOTT VERIZON COMMUNICATIONS
http://www.NorthAmericanSamizdat.com/boycott.html



Brian Cartmell wrote:

> Carl:
>
> Please let me know if you might consider removing the link 
> http://www.doingfreedom.com/nas/spamarrest.htm as the information 
> presented on it is really out of date, and the actions referenced have 
> not been repeated in over two years.
>
> If you have any questions or want to discuss the issue please feel free 
> to call or email me using the information below.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Brian Cartmell, CEO
> Spam Arrest, LLC
> brian () spamarrest com eMail
> +1 206 407 3338 Office
> +1 206 374 2763 Fax




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