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FC: Better Business Bureau tries to ban links to its website


From: Declan McCullagh <declan () well com>
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 12:48:52 -0800

If the below message is accurate, it's part of a disturbing trend that I've been chronicling for a while. The Better Business Bureau appears to be acting like a bully, and not a particularly bright one at that.

Everyone from news organizations to search engines relies on unapproved linking to inform their audience and stay in business. Critics use links to identify companies or groups that should be the target of boycotts. Companies link to competitors, customers, and suppliers. Trying to claim copyright in your URL shows not just a lack of legal clue, but an absence of Net-savvy.

The U.S. Copyright Office says (37 C.F.R. 202.1) works "not subject to
copyright" include "words and short phrases such as names, titles, and
slogans." (http://www.access.gpo.gov/nara/cfr/cfr-retrieve.html#page1) Presumably that would apply to URLs as well.

For background:
http://www.politechbot.com/p-01589.html (news sites try to charge for links)
http://www.politechbot.com/p-01185.html (journalists and linking)
http://www.politechbot.com/p-01667.html (decss and linking)

I invite the BBB to clarify its position.

-Declan

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Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 12:18:17 -0500
To: Declan McCullagh <declan () well com>
From: Stephen Cobb <scobb () cobb com>
Subject: FYI: BBB attempts to cut links

Declan

Thought the following might be of interest.

On an unrelated but amusing side-note. I bought cobb.com in December. So I get all email addressed to anything () cobb com. I am now "enjoying" all sorts of mail addressed to this domain. And I have no way of contacting the people who still think their now "invalid" email addresses at cobb.com are still working. For example, I have no idea who macauthority is/was.

Stephen

From: "Meir Liraz" <meir () bizmove com>
To: <macauthority () cobb com>
Subject: The BBB claims links on other sites pointing to its Website are copyrighted
Sender: "Meir Liraz" <meir () bizmove com>
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 20:52:49 +0200


FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

Attention: Business and Internet - editors

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The Better Business Bureau demand that Websites remove
links pointing to its Website claiming hyperlinks on
other websites that point to BBB site are copyrighted
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March 14, 2001: The Better Business Bureau Council adopted a new policy
recently. It started approaching Websites across the Internet that contains
links pointing to its Website, demanding that all links pointing to BBB
Websites be removed. The BBB bases its request on the premise that since
the material on its Website is copyrighted, Websites need BBB permission to
present links pointing to its sites. Currently there are more than 10,000
Websites on the Internet that contain links pointing to the BBB website.

BizMove.com is a privately owned business that maintains a Website titled:
"The Small Business Knowledge base" (http://www.bizmove.com). The
BizMove.com website is geared towards small business owners and contains
various guides and resources. One of the pages on the BizMove.com site
contains links pointing to various pages on the BBB site (see:
http://www.bizmove.com/BBB/index.htm).

Earlier this week the BizMove.com webmaster received an email signed by
Beth Zialcita from the Council of Better Business Bureaus, Inc., demanding
that BizMove.com remove all links on its site that point to the BBB
Website. In the e-mail Mrs. Zialcita claims that since the links point to
pages that contains BBB copyrighted material websites need its permission
to present links pointing to BBB site (See below the full text of the BBB
email).

In a reply to the BBB email, Meir Liraz, President of BizMove.com indicated
his refusal to comply with the BBB request adding that BizMove.com will
continue to present on its Website hyperlinks pointing to BBB sites.

In regard to the BBB request, Mr. Liraz commented that he is willing to go
to court to protect the right of Websites to present hyperlinks pointing to
other sites without the need for  permission to do so from the sites in
question.

Commenting on the new BBB stand, an Internet industry source said that if
the courts adopt the BBB interpretation of the copyright law it means a
major upset for some of the biggest players in the Internet business arena.
Names like Yahoo, Alta Vista, Excite and Lycos base their whole business
models on presenting searchers with lists of links pointing to various
websites, and they don't ask for permission from firms to present
hyperlinks pointing to their sites.

The Council of Better Business Bureaus is the umbrella organization for the
Better Business Bureau (BBB) system, which was founded in 1912 and is today
supported by 250,000 local business members nationwide. The BBB is also
supported by more than 300 national corporations and by 132 local Better
Business Bureaus. According to its mission statement the BBB is "Dedicated
to fostering fair and honest relationships between businesses and
consumers, instilling consumer confidence and contributing to an ethical
business environment"

BizMove.com is a privately owned publishing firm. BizMove.com maintains The
Small Business Knowledge Base Website (http://www.bizmove.com) and is the
publisher of the Managing a Small Business CD-ROM and various additional
information products geared towards entrepreneurs and small business
owners.

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Here's the text of the Email sent by the BBB to BizMove.com:
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-----Original Message-----
From: Zialcita, Beth [mailto:bzialcita () cbbb bbb org]
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2001 4:28 PM

Subject: BBB links

To the Webmaster:

As a member of the Council of Better Business Bureaus' (the Council) Legal
Department, I am writing about your hyperlink to Better Business Bureau web
site located at http://www.bizmove.com/BBB/index.htm.
I must ask that you delete immediately and remove any hyperlinks to our web
site.

As a matter of policy, the Better Business Bureau does not sponsor, endorse
or approve companies. Your hyperlink to www.bbb.org may imply or mislead
consumers into assuming that our organization supports your business or
that there is a business relationship between us.  In addition, materials
from our web site is copyrighted, and, therefore, cannot be linked to
without permission from the BBB.  Presently, we are only allowing links to
government agencies, educational institution, news media and members of the
BBB.

I trust the Council can rely upon your immediate removal of the Better
Business Bureau hyperlink to our site from your site.
Please contact me at bzialcita () cbbb bbb org if you have any further
questions about this matter.

Thank you for your cooperation.

Beth Zialcita
Online Trademark Enforcement Specialist
Council of Better Business Bureaus, Inc.
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Contact Information:

Beth Zialcita
Online Trademark Enforcement Specialist
Council of Better Business Bureaus, Inc.
bzialcita () cbbb bbb org

Meir Liraz
President, BizMove.com
meir () bizmove com
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