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FC: Update on facecams, red light cameras, and photo radar ruling
From: Declan McCullagh <declan () well com>
Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 19:03:49 -0400
Eric Lee Green and others sent along this link: http://www.sptimes.com/News/080801/TampaBay/_They_made_me_feel_li.shtmlIt says that Tampa police used an image of Rob Milliron, a local construction worker caught on camera and not wanted for any crime, to demonstrate the facecam system to reporters. After U.S. News and World Report published the photograph, a woman erroneously reported Milliron as wanted for child support, and police showed up at his job. The experience of being interrogated by cops was quite pleasant, I'll bet.
More articles: http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,45950,00.html Reporters Scowl at Face Scanners By Declan McCullagh (declan () wired com) 2:00 a.m. Aug. 9, 2001 PDT WASHINGTON -- In an attempt to allay growing public concern, defenders of face-recognition software for video cameras gathered in the nation's capital on Wednesday. The stated purpose of the press conference: "To stop irresponsible grandstanding and fear-mongering, and to start an open and honest dialogue on the shaping of policies, which will ensure responsible use," in the words of the director of the Security Industry Association, Richard Chace. The effect: not much. [...]In the latest Washington City Paper, the local government columnist weighed in on DC cops, cameras, and tickets:
http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/lips/lips.html Also: http://www.sunspot.net/news/printedition/bal-ca.plates00aug12.story?coll=bal-pe-carroll License plate cameras raise privacy concerns 2001-08-12 05:35:51 http://www.detnews.com/2001/editorial/0108/12/a18-266863.htm Rigging traffic lights hurts safety 2001-08-12 05:02:06 -Declan ********* From: "Diamond, Richard" <Richard.Diamond () mail house gov> Subject: Oregon Supreme Court Rules Against photo radar Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 14:44:33 -0400If the state cannot find you guilty without proving you were actually the driver, photo radar is dead in Oregon, despite their AG's comments. A similar Appeals court ruling completely killed photo radar in Alaska. This is a great victory for the rule of law!
Oregon Supreme Court Ruling 8/9/01<http://www.publications.ojd.state.or.us/S46559.htm>http://www.publications.ojd.state.or.us/S46559.htm
Alaska Appeals Court Ruling 1997<http://www.freedom.gov/auto/cases/akappeal.asp>http://www.freedom.gov/auto/cases/akappeal.asp
Richard Diamond Office of the Majority Leader US House of Representatives 202-225-6007 / www.freedom.gov August 9, 2001, Thursday, BC cycle 1:48 PM Eastern Time Associated Press High court overturns speeding ticket issued under photo radar lawPORTLAND, Ore. -- The state Supreme Court on Thursday overturned the conviction of a woman who was issued a $35 speeding ticket under the state's photo radar law.
The state attorney general's office said it does not appear the court ruling throws the photo radar law into question.
"It doesn't have anything to do with the constitutional issues of photo radar," said Kristen Grainger, spokeswoman for the attorney general's office.
[...] ******** Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2001 10:14:55 -0400 To: declan () well com From: Jonathan Gewirtz <nqn () ix netcom com> Subject: What happens when police are caught by speed-enforcement cameras? That's a reasonable question for DC officials. Police and other govt functionaries should be as accountable under law as the rest of us. Perhaps those new impartial cameras will generate an increased incidence of traffic tickets against drivers who now get a pass out of professional courtesy. In such cases will officers be obliged to pay their fines, or will the system be discreetly reprogrammed to ignore official license numbers? The latter outcome would be fundamentally unfair, yet seems possible if this question is not debated publicly. ******** ------------------------------------------------------------------------- POLITECH -- Declan McCullagh's politics and technology mailing list You may redistribute this message freely if you include this notice. To subscribe, visit http://www.politechbot.com/info/subscribe.html This message is archived at http://www.politechbot.com/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------
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