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FC: G8 update: Global Internet Project report, more news from Paris


From: Declan McCullagh <declan () well com>
Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 19:07:19 -0400

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To: declan () well com, farber () cis upenn edu
cc: mmaney () us ibm com, tburton () itaa org
Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 00:34:34 -0400
Subject: New Global Internet Project report on cyber-security



You might want to check out the new Global Internet Project report n
cyber-security, available at www.gip.org. It was released in Paris on
Tuesday in conjunction with the G-8 conference on cyber-crime.

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Michael R. Nelson
Director, Internet Technology and Strategy
IBM Corporation
1301 K St., N.W., Suite 1200
Washington, DC  20005

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From: "Thomas Leavitt" <thomasleavitt () hotmail com>
To: declan () well com
Subject: Re: FC: G8 nations bar public from debate, Europeans want 1-year records
Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 18:16:17 PDT

Lunacy of the highest order.

If you want to drive use of hard to break encryption through the roof, have everyone's communications and web traffic stored in the clear in multiple locations throughout the internet...

Thomas

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From: "Heasman, David" <David.Heasman () seacontainers com>
To: "'declan () well com'" <declan () well com>
Subject: RE: G8 nations bar public from debate, Europeans want 1-year reco
        rds
Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 10:09:27 +0100
X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21)


        Sorry to inject a note of cynicism here, Declan, but of the group
of 8
        countries battling in "secret" to combat "cybercrime", two at
least,
        Japan and Russia, have incorporated organised crime into the fabric
of the state
        and in Italy & France big crime isn't far from the centres of power
either.

        So these meetings and deliberations are being kept secret from who
exactly?

        regards

        Dave Heasman


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Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 11:35:17 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Kevin L. Poulsen" <klp () securityfocus com>
To: declan () well com
Subject: Thin Consensus veils Conflict at G8


Thin Consensus veils Conflict at G8

Government and industry delegates from around the world agree that
cybercrime must be fought, disagree on how.

By Philippe Astor

May 17, 2000 11:21 AM PT

PARIS (SecurityFocus.com News) -- The dialogue may be under way between
industry and government to combat cybercrime, but some technical and
political drawbacks emerged openly during the last two days of the G8
conference here.

The G8 countries -- Britain, Canada, France, Germany, Italy, Japan, Russia
and the United States -- emphasized the importance of creating "an
environment that fosters the growth of electronic commerce by balancing
economic, privacy, human rights, social and other concerns with the need
to maintain public safety and confidence in cyberspace," reads a slim
two-page public statement issued at 1:00 p.m. on Wednesday. "The ability
to locate and identify Internet criminals... is critical to deterring,
investigating and prosecuting crime that has an electronic component."

But this supposed consensus was not reflected in interviews with the
industry and government delegates who occasionally broke with the closed-
door arrangement of the conference.

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http://www.securityfocus.com/news/37

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http://www.wired.com/news/print/0,1294,36398,00.html

G8 Hems and Haws on Cybercrime
Reuters

7:00 a.m. May. 17, 2000 PDT
PARIS -- The world's main industrialized countries called for faster, more innovative responses to cybercrime on Wednesday after consulting tech industries about viruses,
hacker attacks, and Internet fraud.

The Group of Eight (G8) countries found no quick fix for "Love Bug"-type attacks but stressed they wanted to crack down on digital crime rapidly spreading across the globe, but
without stifling the growth of electronic commerce.

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http://www.foxnews.com/world/0516/i_ap_0516_103.sml

  Chirac urges G8 nations to intensify cooperation to fight cybercrime
   7.21 p.m. ET (2332 GMT) May 16, 2000

   By Deborah Seward, Associated Press

     FOOTNOTE: PARIS (AP) The world's leading industrial nations must
     narrow the differences in national laws to combat cybercriminals
     who use loopholes to launch global Internet attacks, French
     President Jacques Chirac said Tuesday.

     The Internet is "testing our laws and our institutions,'' Chirac
     said in a speech to government and private officials attending a
     Group of Eight conference on cybercrime.

     "Given the enormous progress of technology, governments and
     parliaments must harmonize our national laws with regard to the
     Internet,'' Chirac said. "We must overcome the obstacles of
     differences in national legislation. Criminals take advantage of
     these. They exploit the loopholes.''

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/low/english/sci/tech/newsid_748000/748597.stm


Tuesday, 16 May, 2000, 17:58 GMT 18:58 UK

Action on cyber crime 'too slow'

By BBC News Online internet reporter Mark Ward

Governments are moving too slowly to tackle the rising tide of cyber crime, according to lobby groups
and industry bodies at the G8 conference on computer criminals.

High-tech companies say governments will need their help to beat fraudsters, virus writers, malicious hackers and perpetrators of other cyber crimes. But the firms are resisting attempts to turn them into
surrogate police forces and say governments need to do more by themselves.


On the second day of the conference in Paris, French Interior Minister Jean-Pierre Chevenement said governments and high-tech firms should "co-regulate" the internet to ensure that there are no safe
havens for computer criminals.

A new French agency to fight cybercrime starts operating today, but it is over nine months since it
commissioned.

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