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FC: UCITA plan may not be a travesty for consumers --responses
From: Declan McCullagh <declan () well com>
Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2000 01:44:16 -0500
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Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2000 08:51:20 -0800 To: declan () well com From: Kaye Caldwell <kaye () ix netcom com> Subject: Re: FC: Software plan is a travesty for consumers, by Dan GillmorFor a discussion of UCITA based on actual facts, see: http://www.2bguide.com/docs/rne.html
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To: declan () well com Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 14:48:59 -0500 Subject: Re: FC: Software plan is a travesty for consumers, by Dan Gillmor Declan, I didn't see a date on the Gillmor story, so that may explain the inaccuracies. UCITA was endorsed last July by NCCUSL. It has now passed both houses in the Virginia legislature, and will be signed by the governor in the next few weeks, his press flak tells me. One saving grace, I suppose, is that the Va law will not be effective until 7/1/01. In the meantime, the Joint Committee on Science and Technology will be working on a report of some sort about UCITA. This is a group that has legislators and industry people on it--I'm not sure if any consumer groups are represented there. If folks want to lobby against UCITA, that committee is where it remains to be done, for Virginia anyway. The Virginia law has amendments in it that have been pushed by the film industry, to exempt movies from UCITA in B2B situations (upstream, it's called), but not in the mass market context. The NCCUSL executive committee in January signed off on these same amendments, but they won't become official until the whole group votes on them in July. UCITA has also been introduced in Maryland, where it seems to be going somewhere--Gov. Glendening is definitely backing it. In Oklahoma, Illinois, Hawaii and the District of Columbia, where it has also been introduced, its prospects are less clear. I also hear that UCITA has gotten endorsements (or is about to get them) from lawyers' groups in Delaware and Washington, which may be a precursor to introduction in those states. I'm including my contact info for your benefit, but please delete it (e-mail address can stay in) if you post this to the list. Thanks. Jennifer L. Alvey, Esq. Legal Editor & Reporter Electronic Commerce & Law Report
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From: "Curran, John" <John.Curran () mms gov> To: "'declan () well com'" <declan () well com> Subject: RE: Software plan is a travesty for consumers, by Dan Gillmor Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 11:34:06 -0700 Declan, There is absolutely no information in this story to let us know why UCITA is a bad idea. It is clear that the author is against it, but there is no data, no analysis, only unfettered expression. He may be right, but how am I supposed to tell? John John Curran Minerals Management Service 703.787.1258 john.curran () mms gov
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From: gary () Intrepid Com (Gary Funck) Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 10:12:43 -0800 X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.3 08feb96 MediaMail) To: declan () well com Subject: Re: FC: Software plan is a travesty for consumers, by Dan Gillmor Declan, I read that article, but didn't find a URL for more info. (both the text, and the pros./cons). Do you know of any URL's for sites that discuss this topic, and its possible impact on software consumers? I asked the author, and he suggested this one for starters: http://www.infoworld.com/ucita - Gary
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From: Robin Miller <roblimo () home com> Reply-To: roblimo () slashdot org Organization: Andover.net To: Declan McCullagh <declan () well com>Subject: Slashdot on UCITAIf you're a regular Slashdot reader, you've heard aboutUCITA by now. You have probably also gathered that many prominent spokespeople for the open source and free software communities, most notably Richard Stallman, don't like it. UCITA already passed in Virginia, but the governor hasn't yet signed it into law. Here in Maryland, where I live, UCITA is still under consideration. I'm working hard to block it, and I'm not alone. But this story is not as much about Virginia and Maryland as it is about the way UCITA is being "sold" to state legislatures all over the U.S. and how you can work effectively in your state to keep it from becoming the Law of the Land. You've probably heard about UCITA by now. You have probably also gathered that the American Library Association, many consumer advocates, a whole bunch of State Attorneys General, and many prominent spokespeople for the open source and free software communities don't like it. UCITA already passed in Virginia, but the governor hasn't yet signed it into law. Here in Maryland, where I live, UCITA is still under consideration. I'm working hard to block it, and I'm not alone. But this story is not as much about Virginia and Maryland as it is about the way UCITA is being "sold" to state legislatures all over the U.S. and how you can work effectively in your state to keep it from becoming the Law of the Land. More: http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=00/02/17/0038235
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