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Re: Reverse Engineering - Legality


From: Jeffrey Walton <noloader () gmail com>
Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2010 01:52:47 -0400

Hi chintan,

I will do some additional research, I believe that should help.
Also see David Musker's "Protecting & Exploiting Intellectual Property
in Electronics." He discusses quite a few rulings, including Sega
Enterprises Ltd v. Accolade (OK for Accolade to use 20-25 bytes of a
Sega cartridge-based security device) and Atari v. Nintendo (copying
for is OK under fair use, but using the Copyright Registry as a cheat
sheet infringed).

Jeff

On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 9:14 PM, chintan dave <davechintan () gmail com> wrote:
Thanks for your prompt response Jeffrey.

I will do some additional research, I believe that should help.

On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 5:59 PM, Jeffrey Walton <noloader () gmail com> wrote:
Hi Chitan,

A few years back, I spoke with an EFF lawyer on RE and interop. He
told me that some RE was legal for interop purposes [1]. However, we
never spoke in terms of a security assessment. I suppose the next step
is to understand the legal points of "doctrines of merger" and "scenes
a faire".

Jeff

[1] "...the courts are willing to allow a limited amount of reverse
engineering of copyrighted materials for the purpose of achieving
interoperability between computer products as long as the final
product does not contain any infringing code. When it does contain
such code, it may at times also be excused under the doctrines of
merger and scenes a faire if it is necessary to achieve
interoperability or functions as a lockout code."

On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 10:23 AM, chintan dave <davechintan () gmail com> wrote:
Hi Experts,

I need a small help from you.

Is RE legal for security assessments of products purchased from vendors?

There has been a bit of confusion around RE topic.

I know it is illegal to do RE to steal the idea, however this one, I
need feedback from you folks.

If you can share some authoritative resources that could confirm on
the legality/illegality, it would be great.

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Regards,
Chintan Dave,

LinkedIn: http://in.linkedin.com/in/chintandave
Blog:http://www.chintandave.com

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