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Re: Contract Rates??
From: ChromeSilver <chromesilver () gmx net>
Date: Sat, 03 Oct 2009 00:52:10 +0200
Hi all, I have to agree on that's ridiculous low payment. I actually work for at least 100EUR/h, 'special skillz needed' may easily double the rate. I'd suggest telling those head hunters to go fishing elsewhere. Regards, ChromeSilver Jon Kibler schrieb:
All, Question: Is the market for SENIOR security architects and and penetration testers fully saturated or is there a lot of unemployed senior level security consultants? The reason I ask, is, I am being inundated by head hunters and job shops looking for senior level security consultants (10-15+ years of experience) at rates of $35 to $45 per hour for architects and $25 to $35 per hour for penetration testers. From the job descriptions, expected knowledge and skills, these appear to really be senior level consulting contracts. These rates seem to be absurdly low. In perspective, I was making $40/hr in the early 1980s. One of my colleagues with only 5 years of experience, who works full time for a software house, echoed my sentiments, "Dude, I was making more than that while still in grad school in 2003 doing pen testing on the side!" A year ago, both pen tester and architect contract rates were in the $75 to $150 per hour range, and some pen tester rates were even higher. Can anyone explain what is going on here? The one observation I will add is that most of the low rates seem to be coming from either off-shore companies, or the on-shore face of an off-shore company. Are they simply bidding on and winning a bunch of contracts by low-balling the rate, and then struggling to find people to staff the jobs? I would really like to get some other perspective on what is going on here. Finally, I will add that there are still organizations looking for contractors at reasonable rates, but they seem to have become a small minority. TIA for all feedback! Jon
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